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My 1974, 13-ft Sport project
Blue_Northern	#41  Posted on 09/24/08 - 3:21 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 532 Comments: 5 Joined: 09/04/07	That is looking real nice Erik -- you are so close to splashing her. I am jealous! Rob 1973 Outrage/Lo-Pro Conversion
Erik Selis	#42  Posted on 09/25/08 - 8:59 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 71 Comments: 9 Joined: 10/12/05	Thanks Rob. This Sunday we will be splashing her with some champagne first. . Next week we'll be seeing her off to the dealer for the engine and from there she's all Franks. I'm kinda used to seeing the boat from the kitchen window every morning when I get up. The sun is usually shining on that side of the house and I need to wear sun glasses to look at the boat I will hate to see her go. really.... Erik
Binkie	#43  Posted on 09/25/08 - 10:07 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	Erik, With your talent for doing this sort of thing,I see more Whalers in need of restoration in your future. Maybe like the ultimate project, a 19` Outrage to Low Pro, with a mahogany Nauset style console and RPS, and a more modern windshield. Maybe a mahogany with half round stainless rubrail too. BTW do you ever get to Florida. In today's world its not far from Belgium. rich Rich
Erik Selis	#44  Posted on 09/25/08 - 11:46 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 71 Comments: 9 Joined: 10/12/05	Rich, now that you mentioned it. I do have my eye on a Whaler I would like to get my hands on.... A beautiful 1972, 21-ft Ribbed Outrage. It's in pretty good shape but needs some work... I've been to Florida in the past but it's been a few years now. Last time I was in the States I was in Chicago. That was 2 years ago. Next year I'll be in Canada for 2 weeks and then be flying to San Francisco from there. I'll be hooking up with Tony to do some sight-seeing and perhaps (most likely) some fishing. That's the plan anyway... Indeed, today's world has become small.... Erik
Erik Selis	#45  Posted on 09/30/08 - 12:28 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 71 Comments: 9 Joined: 10/12/05	Ok fellas, here's an update: This past weekend I added some more stuff to the boat and finished some details. Here are a couple of pictures with the Yamaha motor controls in place. These controls feel very sturdy and well made. [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/94_t1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/90_t1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/97_t1.jpg[/img] I also made a custom stainless light pole and bracket. Although not original, it looks nice and strong. It is easily removed and can also be used for a flag pole and or the anchoring indicator (it's mandatory to use one of these here in Europe when anchoring. Don't know about the States though) [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/91_t1.jpg[/img] The bilge pump is wired and in place but not fixed down yet. I'm still working on the best way to do it. I want to make it easily removable to have access to the plug fast. Also note the stainless protection plate on the stern port-side. This will protect the boat from the clamping device of the trolling motor. [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/95_t1.jpg[/img] It's amazing how much room is left in the back of the boat since I moved the seating arrangement 6-inches forward and placed the fuel tank and battery under the bench. The cooler there will be used for dry storage and as a seat for fishing while operating the trolling motor. [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/93_t1.jpg[/img] Soon it will be time to mount the engine and splash her for the first time. I can't wait! I'm also working on custom stainless rod-holders that I will mount on the splash-well bulkhead using teak spacers. I think they will really look nice and they will be out of the way. I'll post pictures when installed. Thanks again everyone for your interest in this project. Erik
gerrit	#46  Posted on 09/30/08 - 8:14 AM
Member Posts: 3 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/15/06	Hi i am pretty new here, bud have to say that you did a very nice job on that boat. Nice to see there are people from the country next to me are also here on this site Greetings from Holland Gerrit
Erik Selis	#47  Posted on 09/30/08 - 9:03 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 71 Comments: 9 Joined: 10/12/05	Hi Gerrit. Thanks for the kind words. Where are you from in Holland? I live right on the Dutch border near Hulst. I do all my boating in Holland. All around the Southern part as well as central Holland. A boaters paradise for sure. Do you also have a Whaler? Erik
gerrit	#48  Posted on 10/01/08 - 12:35 AM
Member Posts: 3 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/15/06	Hi Erik I started with a 13 foot supersport now my family has grown (two small boys) I sold the supersport and now have a 17 foot Montauk. And I live in Almere (central of the Netherlands) and I can tell it is heaven for boat owners here. Bud my boat is on a trailer and I have Fun with the boat all over the Netherlands. Greetings Gerrit
Binkie	#49  Posted on 10/08/08 - 7:21 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	Eric. We are waiting the results of your initial test runs. Hoping for good results. rich Rich
Knarf	#50  Posted on 10/09/08 - 3:55 AM
Member Posts: 4 Comments: 0 Joined: 09/12/08	Rich, The engine will be mounted on wednesday 15th of october. I can't wait either. Allready tested him a thousand times in my head We will keep you informed.
Erik Selis	#51  Posted on 10/11/08 - 12:52 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 71 Comments: 9 Joined: 10/12/05	Rich, Sorry for not responding sooner but I've been out of the country for a while and had a pretty rough and busy week... As Frank already mentioned, we will be taking the boat to the Yamaha dealer in Holland on Wednesday the 15th. There Ed Nieuwenhuizen, the dealer, will mount the engine and connect the controls. This shouldn't take long because everything is prepared and mounted. Then we will splash her. Last week we put on the registration numbers and the name of the boat "Beasty". I will post more pictures next weekend when we take the pictures of the maiden voyage. I am very curious to how the boat will handle with the relatively heavy Yamaha F40, 4-stroke. It weighs about 215 lbs with tilt/trim and electric starter. As Rich suggested I moved everything forward about 6 inches so the fuel tank and the battery are under the rear seat. We'll see what happens.... If porpoising occurs then we will have to consider a doel-fin or some extra weight in the bow hatch. I am also curious to the effect of the trim, seeing what happens when you come off plain quickly and how long it takes to get up on plain when loaded with fishing gear and a couple of heavy adults, like Frank.. (ouch, that one hurt). The engine itself should be bulletproof and is widely used among fishermen here. It also looks nice. At the moment there's a 13 P prop on it but I asked Ed to put on an 11-P prop. I am looking for better acceleration and less top-end. We'll see..... Erik
Erik Selis	#52  Posted on 10/17/08 - 10:57 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 71 Comments: 9 Joined: 10/12/05	Well finally, the new 40-hp Yamaha 4-stroke engine has been installed. Ed Nieuwenhuizen from Nion Watersport in Holland did a great job installing this engine. Here's a picture of the mounted engine and the clean job Ed did: [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/102m_t1.jpg[/img] The engine literally started with the first turn of the key right out of the box. Amazing really because the engine isn't an EFI. It does, however, have a special starting system built in and doesn't require choking or extra throttle. [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/104m_t1.jpg[/img] So this is what she looks like now, with the engine mounted and ready to go: [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/100m_t1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/103m_t1.jpg[/img] This Sunday we will be splashing her for the first time. The weather was too bad for testing when the engine was mounted. We will be doing some testing and maybe some adjusting. Ed gave me a 11-P prop to try out as I think this will work better then the standard 13-P that's now on the engine. We'll see...and I'll post the results here of course along with the final pictures of the boat in the water Thanks again to everyone for all the kind words about this project. I really appreciate the advice and the information here on WC. Erik
Erik Selis	#53  Posted on 10/20/08 - 5:10 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 71 Comments: 9 Joined: 10/12/05	OK fellas, I guess we have almost come full circle with this project. Yesterday we finally splashed the boat for the first time. I gotta say, this little 13-footer really exceeded all my expectations in a positive way. I want one of my own now Here are a few pictures: Here's Frank preparing for the big moment: [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/1000_t1.jpg[/img] Here she is tied to the dock: [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/1001_t1.jpg[/img] Here's Frank getting a feel of the boat before taking her out: [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/1003_t1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/1002_t1.jpg[/img] When alone in the boat and going in reverse you could say that she's a bit stern heavy. I don't find it to be a problem though. [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/1004_t1.jpg[/img] As you can see, once on plane the boat rides nice and flat. The engine is making around 4500 rpm in this shot: [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_25/1005_t1.jpg[/img] The static trim changed a lot when we added about 50 lbs of fishing gear on the front bench. Not to mention when I stepped in the boat. No problem for fishing from the back of the boat. With this set-up there's plenty of room: http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86...C01771.jpg Frank even brought in the first fish. How do you say it? He got the skunk out of the boat? http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86...C01773.jpg All in all everything went well. I really love the 40-hp, Yamaha 4-stroke engine. It's quiet, fast and not too heavy for this boat the way it's configured. Even in this break-in period, the boat jumps on plane with 2 fairly heavy guys and fishing gear. The prop is a 13-pitch at the moment but we're going to try out a 11-pitch as well. If the engine is trimmed out too far the boat will start to porpoise but trimming the engine inwards a bit, immediately eliminates this. After the break-in and the GPS assembly I'll post some more data. Erik Edited by Erik Selis on 10/23/08 - 10:51 AM
arthureld	#54  Posted on 10/20/08 - 5:29 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 735 Comments: 7 Joined: 02/15/07	Looks increadible Erik! I'm back in the US now. My stay in Europe was excellent.
Phil T	#55  Posted on 10/20/08 - 5:31 AM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7043 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	Erik- It looks like you both picked a fantastic day to launch. Not a ripple. Where is everyone? You have done an incredible job. 1992 Outrage 17 I 2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+ 2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT
CES	#56  Posted on 10/20/08 - 5:54 AM
Member Personal Page Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 2681 Comments: 7 Joined: 04/27/07	Wow....fantastic job guys. You really did a great job restoring the old girl......Congrats! Cliff 1966 13' Sport with a 1993 40hp Yamaha 2 Smoker
Binkie	#57  Posted on 10/20/08 - 7:26 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	Fantastic job, Erik. Do you agree that moving the interior forward improves the overall ride? BTW what kind of fish is that? It looks like a mutant snook. rich Rich
Erik Selis	#58  Posted on 10/20/08 - 8:14 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 71 Comments: 9 Joined: 10/12/05	Jeez, thanks again guys for the kind words. Roger, I didn't know you were back in the States...you should have mailed me before you left. I was planning on taking you fishing on that same little lake as in the pictures above. It should look familiar to you. It's the "Zoommeer" in Bergen op Zoom where you were staying. Well maybe next time eh? Phil, it was calm at the beginning of the day but the wind picked up quite a bit in the late morning. It reached about 5 bf when we got back to the ramp. The boat handled well in those conditions but it was a bumpy ride up front though...and yes it was pretty quiet on the little lake. The week before there had been a fishing tournament and I guess everyone thought the fish wouldn't bite for a while. I'm surprised myself that we caught a couple of fish. Rich, the fish in the picture is a Zander. They're almost identical to the Walleye caught in North America. Yes, absolutely....and thanks again for your advise in moving the whole seating layout forward. I moved it about 6 inches forward and it makes quite a difference IMO. I guess this is the way to go if someone's planning on mounting a new 40-hp, 4-stroke (or E-Tec) in this type of Whaler. For someone who plans on going out alone often in this configuration I think adding a block of lead (maybe 25lbs) to the bow hatch would make it even better. This would be no bigger than a small brick really. I'm surprised and pleased that the engine weight is no issue. Thanks again to everyone. Erik
jsb91010	#59  Posted on 10/20/08 - 10:28 AM
Member Posts: 128 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/01/08	i can't believe you even got that thing wet!!!! much less put fish slime on her!!!! incredible man, just incredible!!
gerrit	#60  Posted on 10/20/08 - 12:51 PM
Member Posts: 3 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/15/06	You did an awesome job on this one, I really like it. And now that I see these pics I miss my old 13 foot. Hope to see it for real in the future on a nice fishing trip. You guys must be happy with this result, congrats Greetings Gerrit