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Steering hub cables on 13'
cbeale	#1  Posted on 07/13/08 - 12:34 PM
Member Posts: 5 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/13/08	I have a 1964 13' classic. The steering cable came undone from the hub. Anyone know how to "wrap it"?
Joe Kriz	#2  Posted on 07/13/08 - 12:41 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	cbeale, Welcome aboard WhalerCentral. See this post on how the cable is wrapped: http://www.whalercentral.com/forum/vi...#post_9256
cbeale	#3  Posted on 07/13/08 - 2:36 PM
Member Posts: 5 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/13/08	Great picture. That helps. HOWEVER, I'm assuming you have to remove the hub to wrap the cable, right? Otherwise, the column gets in the way. If so, NOW I'm trying to remove the hub, but I don't see how you can get to the nut, which is located inside the hub. Very frustrated.
Binkie	#4  Posted on 07/13/08 - 2:45 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	This may help: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c19...inghub.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c19...hookup.jpg rich
Joe Kriz	#5  Posted on 07/13/08 - 2:51 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Hey Binkie, Can I post those photos in the article here? http://www.whalercentral.com/readarti...icle_id=81
cbeale	#6  Posted on 07/13/08 - 3:27 PM
Member Posts: 5 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/13/08	The pictures are great, but I still need to know, Do I need to remove the hub to wrap the cable? If so, How do I do that?
Joe Kriz	#7  Posted on 07/13/08 - 4:19 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	I have never wrapped the hub but from looking at the photos it clearly does NOT look like you have to remove anything. Do you have a hub? Do you have a cable? Did you take yours apart?
cbeale	#8  Posted on 07/13/08 - 6:05 PM
Member Posts: 5 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/13/08	Yes, I have the hub and the cables. My cable came unwrapped from the hub and I am simply trying to re-wrap it. Based on the pictures, though, I can't see how you can wrap the hub without taking it off because the steering column would be in the way. I can't get the hub off because I can't unscrew the nut that is up in the hub. Friggin' ridiculous design.
Joe Kriz	#9  Posted on 07/13/08 - 6:52 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	cbeale, Think about this. If it came unwrapped without taking it apart, then you should be able to wrap it back again without taking it apart. You may have to take the back end apart but I am not positive as I have never done this. I had a 13' for 13 years and I remember once that one of the wraps slipped. All I had to do was pull the slack out of the spring and get the wrap back in the slot.
Binkie	#10  Posted on 07/14/08 - 5:46 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	Its really not to difficult to wrap the cable. The spool has a slot in it. Find the center of the cable and fold it in half and stick the folded part in the slot. You want to wrap the part of the spool closest to the dash first. Hold the cable underneath the spool in the center, and turn the wheel clockwise three times. The top of the spool is now wrapped. Take some masking tape and wrap it around the wrapped part of the spool. This will keep the cable from coming unwrapped. now to finish, hold the wheel still and wrap the cable clockwise from the end of spool to the middle of spool. It should look like picture number two, One line on top one line on bottom. Now wrap masking tape around rest of spool to keep it from unspooling. Now you can run your cables through The pulleys. If you are unsure what goes where, just pull the cable slightly and see which way the steering wheel will turn. DON`T do it backwards, It would be hard to get used to. LOL If you want to upgrade your pulleys, check this site. Click on steering systems. Pricey, but top of line race boat hardware. Some misinformed folks believe that pulley and cable steering is unsafe. In fact it is the only type of steering system allowed on outboard powered race boats, some with speeds of over 100mph. It can be inspected for safety, and the steering is much more controlled, no play at all. http://www.btmco.com/Steering_Systems...stems.html rich
BAY2SAV	#11  Posted on 07/14/08 - 6:07 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 93 Comments: 0 Joined: 06/24/07	cbeale, Are you trying to rewind the hub with the cables still attached to the engine? This would certainly make it difficult to try to rewind. It's easiest (a relative term) to disconnect the cables from the engine and then start from the beginning like Binkie outlined and then rethread the cables through the pulleys to the engine. When I did mine, I could not get the hub off the shaft so I removed the steering wheel and the tapped in the pins on the shaft to remove shaft and hub from below. Just reversed the process once I got the hub rewound. Also, keep in mind that when you rewind the hub, you must account for the different lenghts of the cables to pulleys and engine. Be patient and we can walk you through it.....it's almost a "right of passage" for 13' Sport owners. Denny 1972 13' Sport Smirked Hull and Blue Interior Nissan 25hp 4-stroke
Binkie	#12  Posted on 07/14/08 - 7:32 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	Probably the 13 foot Whaler, and maybe some 15 footers are the only pleasure boats still around that still use cable and pulley steering. Anyone have this type of steering on their side console 17 footer? I think the center console is what ended its use. Last week, I stopped by my local Suzuki dealer, to get a price on a 25 Suzuki for my 13 footer. i had the boat with me, as I wanted to trade the `99 Johnson 25 in, toward a new motor. Of course I have cable and pulley steering. the owner came out to look at my engine, and his first reply was "What the, Is that legal?" Anyway I bought a Merc. 25, It will be hooked up to the cable and pulley steering. A blend of old and new. Am thinking about spending $100 and getting race boat pulleys, maybe add some class. LOL Notice cable and pulley steering is hooked up a little differently on raceboats. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c19...eboat3.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c19...eboat8.jpg rich
cbeale	#13  Posted on 07/17/08 - 10:07 AM
Member Posts: 5 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/13/08	I'm located in Kilmarnock. Any chance of recruiting your help on this problem?
BAY2SAV	#14  Posted on 07/17/08 - 7:28 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 93 Comments: 0 Joined: 06/24/07	Hey Chris, I sent you a PM Denny 1972 13' Sport Smirked Hull and Blue Interior Nissan 25hp 4-stroke
Yiddil	#15  Posted on 07/17/08 - 8:00 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 181 Comments: 2 Joined: 04/29/05	Kilmarnock!!! Heck Im in Montros and I have the pully system on my 64 13 sport. I'm still fighting with the kainer wheel that wont come off YET!, I cant wait to replace a spring!!! Henry AKA THE YIDDIL
nauticalchallenge	#16  Posted on 04/27/09 - 6:28 PM
Member Posts: 1 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/27/09	I disconnected steering box to refinish and steering cable came undone from hub. I notice the slot. Based on earlier posts, it seems I should slide cable through slot, wind steering cable 3 times clockwise. The last intruction was to wrap the top and bottom around the hub. This may be difficult with no slack. Any recent suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.