Thread subject: Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos :: Kicker Engine for Montauk

Posted by terondon on 08/15/09 - 12:48 PM
#1

Recently, we have re-engined our Montauk 17 with a Yamaha 60 ( see my personal page, which shows the old Mercury 115). Before anyone says "only a 60" please bear in mind that in the UK we pay $6 per gallon for gas and a new Yamaha 60 costs almost $9000 here. Am delighted with the quietness of the new motor and we can get 34 knots on flat water.

I have just acquired a Mariner 9.9, built in 2003 but with only a handful of hours usage: it is currently rigged with remote controls and electric start, but the Serial Number shows that it has been converted from tiller steering & control.

Contacting local dealers to see if it can be reversed to tiller control and made suitable for a back up (kicker) to the Yammy, I have been told that it is too heavy an engine and too expensive a conversion for my purpose.

Are they right or are they trying to sell me a new 5HP motor or is it too heavy to hang on the transom with a 60? I would appreciate your advice!

Posted by Joe Kriz on 08/15/09 - 12:51 PM
#2

Is the 60hp Yamaha a 4 stroke?
How much does it weigh?
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...ticle_id=5

Here are the weights of the current kicker motors.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...ticle_id=7

Posted by HarleyFXDL on 08/16/09 - 7:19 AM
#3

I had a 9.9 Yamaha 4-stroke on my Montauk. I found it a bit over kill. It weighed a little over 100 lbs and wouldn't push the boat any faster than a motor half the weight (4-8 hp). I would venture to say a 4-8 hp engine would do the same function at half the weight.

If you do decide to keep the kicker, and before you go through all the trouble of converting back to tiller, see if you can hook the kicker up to a dual binnicle, so you can control BOTH engines from the helm.

Posted by Phil T on 08/16/09 - 7:32 AM
#4

I have read favorable reports of owners installing a Yamaha T8 and hooking it up to the main engine and installing dual key switches and a dual throttle. Pretty slick.

Posted by terondon on 08/18/09 - 1:11 AM
#5

HarleyFXDL wrote:
I had a 9.9 Yamaha 4-stroke on my Montauk. I found it a bit over kill. It weighed a little over 100 lbs and wouldn't push the boat any faster than a motor half the weight (4-8 hp). I would venture to say a 4-8 hp engine would do the same function at half the weight.

If you do decide to keep the kicker, and before you go through all the trouble of converting back to tiller, see if you can hook the kicker up to a dual binnicle, so you can control BOTH engines from the helm.

Posted by terondon on 08/18/09 - 1:13 AM
#6

Hi, Thanks for the reply: pretty much as I thought. It was just ashame to have the Mariner and not put it to use, but after advice I'll sell it on and by a 4-6HP tiller model

Posted by terondon on 08/18/09 - 1:20 AM
#7

Joe

The Yamaha is the 2008 model, 251 lbs, and the Mariner 9.9 is quoted at 85lbs. Batteries are under console and there is no additional weight behind the leaning post ( apart from an occasional fish!)

Posted by Mr T on 08/19/09 - 8:35 AM
#8

I have a 6 hp nissan 4 stroke on my Nauset, and it's perfect for trolling and ecomony.

Posted by ScooterCO on 08/19/09 - 12:25 PM
#9

It was sugested that I find a 4hp long shaft kicker by my BW dealer.

Posted by Tig on 08/20/09 - 7:01 AM
#10

"only a 60" :) I have a 50, 4 stroke on my 15 and I love it. It planes nice beyond the rated passenger weight. On my last afternoon of start, stop, cruise, visit with 4 adults on board, I GPS'd the distance at just over 60 miles on a 25l tank of fuel. You just might love that new 60 as much as I do my 50. I think I'll buy her a stainless prop next year.

Posted by HarleyFXDL on 08/20/09 - 8:05 AM
#11

4-8 hp motors are good choices for a kicker on a Montauk. As it has been stated on another post, propeller choice is just as important as is the motor. I'm sure a 4 hp would do the trick providing it has the right prop.