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OK guys time to brag about speed. This guy claims 51mph in this


http://whalercentral.com/infusions/personal_page/view_personal_page.php?user_id=9617


I top out at 40mph on glass with my 16 fter with a 90TLR and I feel like I am flying... In fact I cannot really imagine going faster and it being safe...

The lead pic on this guys page is just nuts !!!

So guys... How fast are you going in your whalers ? I want boat name, top speed, feet, power, hull, and model ! Let the bragging begin !!!

Mandarina - 40mph - 16 feet - 1 90TLR - deep V - 16SL

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Sippy Cup, 33 mph in just under 1' chop and a tail wind, 50 HP Honda 4 stoke carb, 15' Dauntless.
The name is just a nickname referencing fuel consumption during a 20 to 25 mph cruise. :)

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I've got a 17ft Montauk with a 135 Mercury (came with the boat). According to the gps on a calm river in a straightaway, I max out at 52mph. I did it for about a minute and backed off. In my opinion, it is stupidly fast and unsafe.

I like to run 35mph. That way my eye sockets are flapping and I can talk to my son seated next to me. OF course my father the bass fisherman thinks 52 is putting along and likes to run 65 in his 19ft. bass boat rocket. Needless to say I don't join him all that much.

Good luck with your investigation!

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My 17 montauk with 90 hp yam alone perfect conditions I have not been able to break 41 mph .I stopped trying so nothing else would break. But i enjoy a dose of HP every once and a while. 3200-3500 rpms give me the best cruise and fuel consumption.

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1982 17ft Montauk, 1994 Ocean Pro 115, over-bored at a powerhead rebuild, not sure what it would dyno at now, 17 pitch prop, trimmed up so it's begging for mercy @ 5650 rpm, light fuel and my skinny a**, my Raytheon/Apelco 365 fish finder reports 52+ mph in a slight left hand turn (the transducer being on the right side of the transom will move faster on the outside of the arc, like a phonograph record spins faster on the outer rim than close to the center and the propeller torque is less induced drag).

HOWEVER, the fishfinder speed is calculated by a spall magnetic paddle wheel fixed to the back of the transducer and considering the horsepower "nvaccaro" has on the same hull and his report? I seriously have doubts as to the actual TWS.

All I know is; into a good headwind it starts a little chine walk if trimmed too high and it's kind of frightening. If a decisive turn had to be made to avoid a hazzard? Especially to the port? It would be curtains. I never had the guts to keep it at speed long enough to allow the GPS to stabilize and report a good speed average. So yeah, when the FWC imposed a 30 mph limit outside the Manatee Zone during the day? It nevered bothered me. 21mph is perfect for time v fuel considerations. With the kids on the foredeck, whatever it takes to plane her off, then just enough to keep it there.

Cool thread tho'. I once saw a 15 Sport in Marathon tied up at the Bahia Honda Park Marina with a 150 Black Max Merc on it. The owner was getting a good dose from the Ranger. Never in a million would I board that!

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1966 13' BW. Got her up to 34MPH according to the speedometer on the boat. I haven't track it's speed with a GPS yet.

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My pathetic Merc 25 4 stroke will push my 13 footer along at 29-30mph, That's with it jacked up to the point that the cavitation plate is running dry, I want to ride with nvccaro`s Dad who runs 65 in his bass boat. That's what I run in my raceboat thats only 14' long and about 225 pounds without the engine.

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How about a 600hp 70mph 25' WhalerDrive Tempation. That is my idea of fun. I never really cared for these boats until I saw this one.
Scream and Fly article

Our twin 150 Merc powered 22' Guardian will do 51 - 52mph on a gps with a pair of crappy aluminum props.

Our old 17 Montauk with a 90hp Merc Inline 6 would do 47 - 49 on a gps.

And my favorite (16 years old when we had it) was a 15 Supersport with a Merc 75hp Inline 4. It had a tall stainless prop and saw the mid - high 50's on the old style water pressure speedo.

My older OMC powered Whalers were/are great but, never really where speed demons like the Merc powered hulls. Personally I like to go faster than most in the Whaler group. A cruise on clam water under 30 mph is to slow for my tastes.

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My 86 Montauk + 86 Johnson 90 + By Myself (260 pounds) + 12 gallons of fuel + 13x19 aluminum prop + a 10mph tailwind + flat water = 44.8mph on GPS

Fast enough for me.

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I got out for the first time on my 1990 18 Outrage, twin 70 hp Yamaha, mounted 1 hole up, stainless props, 5,900 rpm WOT, half tank, myself and one passenger, GPS read almost 39 mph. I could probably pick up a little more speed as I get more accosted to trimming these motors. My Montauk with a 90hp Johnson went 41 mph plus, but I feel like I'm going faster on the 18 Outrage. I was expecting the Outrage to do above 45 mph.

I checked the cavitation plates and they looked good for height setting.

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Had a 17' Avenger, hyd jack plate, Merc 200 hp, nose cone and low water pick up, would do 70-80 mph (radar gun). Flipped boat, dislocated elbow, bruised ribs, concussion, ended up in hospital for a few days. Morale of the story.............40 mph is plenty fast now!

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Classic '95 Outrage 17 with an '04 Mercury 90hp 4-stroke, mounted 3 holes up, aluminum 17P prop, fully trimmed at 6000 RPM runs 41-42 mph (GPS). Running like this it likes to chinewalk if not on calm water or directly down wind. I wouldn't mind getting a little more out of it, but it's fun :)

- Chris

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I dunno, I nailed the throttle full once trying to beat a nasty down pour in blinding "Hail" and wind, and I almost ran up the back of another "Whaler", luckily his "BLUE" interior stuck out "large" as I closed in way too fast "he was on Plow, I was on Plane", I yanked back on the throttle as I pulled to port blasting past him with his mouth open, that would have looked REALLY "STUPID" if we "hooked up"

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1980 striper 17 with a 90 yamie: 44.8 mph top speed!

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Haven't got 'my' Whaler yet (17' Montauk, Yamaha 90 TLRC with 1 hour on it) but my other toy boat below is a Kevlar 20' Allison with an old Merc 2.4 Bridgeport Offshore ~300hp, with a combined fueled weight just under 1000 lbs.

I've been on radar at 118 with that... 80mph is where that boat starts to get fun. I suspect the Montauk will run about 40.

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Just adding an addendum to my post as I received a PM from member 'nvaccaro'. My post was ambiguous and it may seem I was doubting his speed data on his rig by choosing my words poorly. I do that a lot on the internet. It's a curse. I sent him this reply:




ps @ 'Seafarer'

You're nuts! I like it! Growing up in Jersey I had a ride once in a 'Jersey Skiff'. Are you familiar? Old Timey wooden boats with a very long nose section, cockpit in the rear and Detroit big blocks for power. I once had a ride on Lake Hopatcong doing 60-70. Once!

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A 90 HP on a 15.. 51 MPH may be doable but very dangerous...:o

I squeeze 42 MPH out of my 17 with a 90 HP per a GPS. No jack plates, 19 inch stainless, standard mounting...

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Quite familiar, as my uncle had one with a big Cadillac engine in it. Great idea, total failure - the engine was too heavy and the boat, while decently speedy, would never get the lift a skiff needs to really fly. He named it the So-Slo.

My dad used to race tunnel boats on Lake Hopatcong, up til the early 70s. Those old plywood tunnels were the really nutso boats.

I'm interested now to see life at a Whaler's pace, though. I can't imagine a Montauk has a rougher ride than a ModVP slamming into waves down in the Barnegat bay or the Hudson River, or the Adirondack lakes when the wind and wakes pick up.

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My 15 with a 70 hp Yamaha would run 42 on gps.
My 20 outrage with 175 Merc. was a 50 Mph boat, gps.
I once had a guy in a key west bay boat think he could beat me back to the dock while we were fishing the flats. He found Out that my little 15 was pretty Quick.

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I just wanted to thank Ambush for his response to my pm. I replied to him with a another pm. Anyway, just wanted to say I appreciated his response. I was at my parents's house last night and a neighbor showed up. He apparently had a 17 ft Montauk about 10 years ago. He said with a 90hp Evinrude with a full tank of gas, he would get between 40 and 45 on his speedo. He's a big guy so I'm sure that factors in.

Have a good Sunday.

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My 1988 22 Outrage with the 2006 225 ETEC posted (on a very flat day, 0 wind) 54 Mph @ 5600 rpms. Normal running with a mild chop is 40 - 50. I normally cruise at 30 to 35 all day long and its very comfortable. When i run at 50 or more, it certainly seems like there is nothing in the water, and my usual boating partner gets a little nervous when we run at top speed. :D

duf B)

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1984 15 Super Sport with 60HP Mariner = 41.2 MPH on GPS.

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duf, I think 54mph will be pretty hard to beat in a Whaler. Remember, we ain`t having fun unless we`re a little skeered.

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I would guess speed is relative to the size of your wallet and cajones. :D

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Yeah, i gotta admit, its a bit of a rush :D I just came back from the Whaler get together, and did a 35 MPH run across Corpus Christi bay which was relatively flat. Was a hoot and i crossed it in about 30 mins. When i got to the intercoastal, i opened her up and was cruising at 53 for a couple of minutes. WAS A BLAST!!

Duf B)

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Those are pretty impressive numbers Duf! I can squeeze out about 48 MPH on our 22' Outrage with the 200 HO Etec and 17 pitch MiragePlus prop.

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I have a 1961 13' with a 40 hp on it and I have hit 44 mph per gps. Freshwater, 1 person, little weight, in flat calm conditions and no wind.

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Don't know how fast he is moving, but it did attempt to take off. I believe he is running a Johnson 150 on an outrage 19. Photo is clickable.



[IMG]http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww330/Tim-Grant/th_AirFleming1.jpg[/IMG]

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I haven't played with the prop yet Dave, and i have a 14 1/2 X 19, that has another stamp on it that says 21, so i'm thinking its a repitched 19. I would think that it is to small a prop on a 225 but the RPM's are right at 5600, which i understand is what you want. Now that the wind is laying down a little, i'll be going out after i get back from a 2 week business trip, and do some speed runs on a really calm day and recheck my RPMs out without a tank full of gas. ;)

Duf B)

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How high are you running the motor? You want the cavitation plate to be at the surface of the water when on plane.

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Rich, the motor is mounted in the third hole from the top on the motor bracket. I'm pretty sure the cavitation plate is where it needs to be, but i will check my next time out in a couple of weeks. As Joe said way back when i first got the boat and swapped the motors, "Duf how fast do you want to go"? I'm sure i could mess around with the prop and get a couple more knots out of her, but realistically, its not high on my list of boat things to do as over 50 really is fast enough and cruising between 35 and 40 is 99% of my time cooking on the water.
Now, that said when i finish Raggedy up and get her sold i will be moving up to a 25 Ouutrage with Whaler Drive, and when i do i will also more then likely repower with new twin E-TECS. That ought to be interesting! :D

Duf B)

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1968 13' ft with a 67 Merc 500M .... 21 inch prop.......hook taken out of the bottom..... 54 mph on a gps...... dangerous

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Some fast #s. My numbers are on a lake so I think the GPS number should be pretty dead on...

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With my new 115 Etec on my 1991 17' outrage I've managed a best of 45.1 mph so far. I'm running a 17" Viper prop and I know of a couple of others that have managed a couple more mph with a 19" Viper. Since I regularly use this particular boat to fish shallow inshore waters and often with a partner and 35 gallon live well, I'll still with the 17" prop and the tremendous planing ability I have with the setup.

Honestly, 40+ mph in my little Outrage isn't what I usually consider fun anyway but I still cant resist an occasional full throttle and fully trimmed speed run every once in a while when calm conditions present.

The newer motors on these older boats are creating some very impressive numbers. 54 mph in a 13 footer... yikes!

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I can't wait to get my GPS rigged up...I want to see how fast mine will go.

75' 21' Outrage with a 200hp Black Max Merc on the back...i had her opened up once and had to throttle back down, just too much speed.

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43 per a GPS with a 90 HP on a 17 smirked... A real push though...

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I'm getting 52 or 53 from the speedometer and GPS in a 1986 Outrage 18 with a 150 and low fuel. It's fun, but hard to control at that speed. Duf and I need to race.

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5600 rpm 42mph, flat calm water, 1970 16 footer with a 1999 Merc 90hp 20 pitch Mercury lightspeed ss prop. Usually run about 20-30mph depending on conditions.

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Wow, that's fast! I'm not real surprised though. I've gotten 42 knots (GPS) out of an '87 Outrage 18 with a '98 Yamaha S150 carbed 2-stroke. I forget what the RPMs were and the fuel tank was full. The prop is a Michigan Rapture I think, not sure what size (19?). The engine is mounted one hole up and the boat is bottom painted. The boat felt pretty stable to me at that speed, but it was fairly calm water and it has Seastar hydraulic steering too.
My '95 Outrage 17 has an '04 Mercury 90 4-stroke and gets 41-42 mph (GPS). The motor is mounted three holes up and running a sad looking original 17P aluminum prop. Time for a nice stainless prop for next season I think. The boat will start to chine walk at this speed if I cross some wake.

- Chris

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Here's one for you speed freaks. Never really did open it up.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v42...an0001.jpg


And this one does 62mph DGPS, driven by a Merc racing tech, who said he could get another 2 mph out of her if the engines were raised another 1-1/2". Props are 21" Rev-4's, and engines are Merc 200 EFI's. I rarely take the boat over 4000 RPM, about 45 MPH.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v42...an0004.jpg

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Whoa! Twin 115's on an 18'???? The boat sits nice in the water though.