Thread subject: Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos :: Johnson control box help

Posted by jsb91010 on 10/03/08 - 4:36 PM
#1

ok guys...I have a 1977 35hp johnson, and I bought it with no controls...I bought a control box and it appears the control box is newer and has more features like trim/tilt/gauges wires...I connected the wires from my engine harness to the matching color on the box and it will turn it over once, then not again...almost like it's a short or something, any ideas? Also...is there a kit i can use so i can use post 1979 control cables on my '77 engine?

Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/03/08 - 4:45 PM
#2

jsb,

Take a look at this wiring diagram for the engine harness.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...rowstart=1


What type and brand of control box did you buy?
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=56

Edited by Joe Kriz on 10/03/08 - 7:52 PM

Posted by jsb91010 on 10/03/08 - 7:22 PM
#3

that first link didn't work...and I bought johnson control box, that juding bye the control cable style is post 1979...it's is what i would say is a side mount control box with tilt/trim.

Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/03/08 - 7:53 PM
#4

I fixed the first link. Sorry about that.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...rowstart=1

Posted by jsb91010 on 10/03/08 - 8:32 PM
#5

WOW joe...THANKS man i looked at the wiring diagram seen what color wire does what...found out I didn't have the "starter" wire connected to anything...connected it to the only wire that wouldn't match any other one and fired right up!!! thanks a bunch man! any ideas about me being able to use it on the older engine? is there a control cable kit or soemthing?

Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/03/08 - 8:37 PM
#6

There are control cable kits.
You would have to contact your BRP dealer.

You might also consider changing to newer style cables.
Again, check with your dealer for the engine ends or kits.

Posted by jsb91010 on 10/03/08 - 8:41 PM
#7

OK, my control box has the ends with the holes in it. But according to johnson site it needs the other ind which is just a straight wire type. Really I just need a kit for the engine to allow for the new style cable to be used

Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/03/08 - 9:56 PM
#8

That is correct.

If you buy new cables, which is a good idea if you have old ones, then the new cables should fit your new control box.
Then all you would possibly need is the adapters for the engine end if necessary.

Posted by jsb91010 on 10/03/08 - 11:00 PM
#9

I would have to buy the post '79 cables because that's what the control box needs...I am having trouble finxing a kit for those cables to allow them on my engine...

Posted by Binkie on 10/04/08 - 6:12 AM
#10

On my `99 Johnson 25, Iused a control box from the `50`s, ( 2 handle box with shift and throttle handles and no starter key) I hooked up a remote key in the dash, and everything worked well. It was a very simple hookup,

rich

Posted by jsb91010 on 10/04/08 - 8:33 AM
#11

yeah binkie...yours is "backwards" of what I need...Im trying to do NEWER box, with OLD engine...I can't seem to find that connection kit..I have seen the kit that your talking about to convert a new engine to the old style, but not vice versa?

Posted by seahorse on 10/04/08 - 4:43 PM
#12


If you have the post 1979 cables, the adapter kit for the 25-35hp motors is part #173617

Posted by jsb91010 on 10/04/08 - 6:33 PM
#13

thanks guys...no kit needed, all I needed was the clips that hold the cable on...got one of the clips and it works awesome, had to order the other 3 parts should be here next week! THanks for you guys helpB)