Thread subject: Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos :: Around Manhattan

Posted by scrimshaw on 02/26/08 - 12:10 PM
#1

O.K. it's almost time ! I'm wondering if we could come up with a flotilla to circle the Island early June ? Any interest ?

Posted by Yiger on 02/26/08 - 1:59 PM
#2

Hard to say if 'Preflight' will be finished by then, but if it is I'll do my best to be there!

Posted by joninnj on 02/26/08 - 6:05 PM
#3

I'am in , done it before. Even went into HellsGate.... Not best part of curise around the island...:o

Anyway If planned right this could be a lot of fun B)

See ya

Posted by howard Werner on 02/26/08 - 7:11 PM
#4

I'm in if I am able to get the boat back to NY from the storage in RI in time.

Howard

Posted by sraab928 on 02/27/08 - 3:27 AM
#5

I'm thinking about joining - I have 2 questions...

Is this suitable for a 13 Whaler?
Can this be done as a day trip from southern NJ?

Posted by arthureld on 02/27/08 - 3:44 AM
#6

I'm in, I'm in! Yipee!!! :D

Posted by arthureld on 03/03/08 - 6:07 AM
#7

sraab928 wrote:
Is this suitable for a 13 Whaler?
Can this be done as a day trip from southern NJ?


I'd say both are possible on a good day but I hope someone with more experience will respond.

That seems like one hell of a day trip so you might concider finding a room.

This trip seems like a great idea and I am very much looking forward to it.

Posted by sraab928 on 03/03/08 - 6:19 AM
#8

If I could find a campground I could come up with my Motorhome. The only problem would be launching the Whaler. I would need someone to drop it in for me. There is no way I'm backing my 36 Foot class A down the ramp. :o

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/sraab928/Hurricane%20Deckboat/DSC02996.jpg[/IMG]



Posted by scrimshaw on 03/03/08 - 6:41 AM
#9

I've heard of a launch ramp near the G.W.B. haven't seen it, I'm a 2 hour boat ride from the city and may opt to trailer to a closer location. Any thoughts on a convenient venue for all ? This should be fun! If we come up with a common launch/meeting location launching will not be an issue for anyone.

Edited by scrimshaw on 03/03/08 - 6:42 AM

Posted by danedg on 03/03/08 - 7:54 AM
#10

Just make it AFTER striper season...I'll be busy "upriver" til then....B)

Posted by Yiger on 03/03/08 - 12:29 PM
#11

Is there a boat ramp at Liberty Park? If so, that would be a good place to launch so nobody is driving through the city with a trailer.
Scott, if I can make it I'll be happy to launch your boat for you. I won't be able to give a definate answer until pretty close to the event though (because of the boat and my job ). If I can't make it by boat I'll TRY to arrange for some overhead photos from my 'occupational vehicle'... Look for something loud and bright orange!

Edited by Yiger on 03/03/08 - 12:29 PM

Posted by sraab928 on 03/03/08 - 12:48 PM
#12

Would that be a Coast Guard Helicopter?

And thanks for the offer. Lets play it by ear as it gets closer.

Edited by sraab928 on 03/03/08 - 12:49 PM

Posted by MW on 03/03/08 - 2:25 PM
#13

I would'nt go through "Hell Gate" in a 15 footer, that RR bridge is one creepy place ! especially at the wrong tide when all of L.I. sound empty's into it. maybe if we bypassed "Hell Gate" I'd go, we don't have to go through "Hell gate" do we ?
mw

Posted by arthureld on 03/03/08 - 3:08 PM
#14

I looked at the map and see no reason to go past hells gate on the way around Manhattan.
I hope you make it MW.

Posted by scrimshaw on 03/03/08 - 5:06 PM
#15

Hells Gate with the tide in your favor is of no concern,even with it not in your favor your in a Whaler ! I'm more concerned with the natives tossing items off the bridges. Either way it's interesting.

Edited by scrimshaw on 03/03/08 - 5:16 PM

Posted by danedg on 03/03/08 - 5:24 PM
#16

Staten Island....you can get there....You can launch there...you're in front of the Statue of Liberty...and motor AROUND Manhattan...not into it...ain't no campgrounds.....
Chris Galdschjodt grew up there...on this Eastport...Was a Coastie there....was excited about the idea...and said his sister would love to go...again!
The end of June......

Posted by MW on 03/04/08 - 1:18 AM
#17

I know there is a public ramp near the Marine Parkway bridge in the "Rockaways" (closest one I know of), we could launch there (Jamaica Bay) and go out of "Rockaway Inlet" but, "Staten Island" would be closer, It's a bit west past my normal area of operation, I'll check around for other Ramps, one closer would be better, maybe a trip to Jones beach or somewhere else would be a good trip, and more protection (Barrier beaches) for us Little 13's and 15 foot model's, I'm not sure if I can run with the "BIG DOG's" out the inlet but, it sure would be a blast if we could get everyone together.
mw

Posted by arthureld on 03/04/08 - 3:27 AM
#18

sraab928 wrote:The only problem would be launching the Whaler. I would need someone to drop it in for me.


I can help you launch it.

Posted by joninnj on 03/04/08 - 4:53 AM
#19

On the NJ side there are several ramps, GWB has ramp and parking. In Nyack NY, there is also has a ramp. Nyack had a permit requirement. You will need to call. Last time I launched from Nyack, there was a someone collecting fees.

I believe there is one liberty state park, in Jersey City, but not sure.

There was a also a ramp near the Meadow Lands that leads to the Newark Bay, open to the Hudson, That is a bit of a ride itself, and not the most scenic.

Hells gate is a creepy place, with tide against you and huge wakes reverberating off the sea walls makes this a place to avoid even in whaler.

Something to note on windy day lower Manhattan as well as the wider sections of that river can get a bit rough and wet... Particularly if it is a busy weekend.

Edited by joninnj on 03/04/08 - 5:00 AM

Posted by chris galschjodt on 03/04/08 - 5:45 AM
#20

I grew up in Brooklyn and I'm very familiar with the area. I think a " staging area" needs to be decided so people can decide if they are going to cruise or trailer to the area. I would be coming from upstate so I would definately trailer my boat. If you contact some marinas in the area we might be able to get a group rate on the ramp. New Jersey or Staten Island may be the best spot. You come right out into New York harbor off the Statue of Liberty. I'm in if it's a good weekend for me. ChrisG.

Posted by arthureld on 03/04/08 - 6:08 AM
#21

You are right Chris. We need to come up with a staging area and NYC isn't likely to be it. Anybody have ideas? I can find marinas searching the net, but it would be better if someone could suggest a known reputable place.
Keep in mind, Scrimshaw is coming from CT and he is the one who started this thread.

Posted by scrimshaw on 03/04/08 - 6:59 AM
#22

Maybe a common meeting spot on the water would suit more people ? It seems alot of interest from alot of directions, thats good, my intentions in starting this thread was to amass a flotilla to circle the City !! It's happening ! Jim

Posted by Pete on 03/04/08 - 7:33 AM
#23

Jersey City, NJ has a public ramp in Liberty State Park. This is located near the NJ Turnpike and is easily accessible. No vehicles are to be in the park after 10:00 pm.
I believe there is a restaurant. There is no restroom, water or power at the ramp. I think there is a porta potty. There are enough parking spots for vehicles + trailers. I believe the cost is $14.00 per day per boat/vehicle/trailer.
Another good spot is Great Kills Staten Island. This public ramp is located in the Gateway National Park on Hylan Blvd in Staten Island. This is also easily accessible by main road and the ramp / facility is great. There is a per day fee, whic I dont know. I get the season pass for $50.00. This park with allow overnight parking as long as you let the ranger office know you will stay. There is no power or water here. There is porta potty. There is plenty of parking and is a very nice facility and park. There are restaurants shouting distance from the ramp and accessible by boat.
Liberty State Park ramp is very near the Statue of Liberty. Great Kills is about 5 miles from the Verrazano Bridge entrance to the Narrows.
Pete

Posted by arthureld on 03/04/08 - 6:30 PM
#24

Thanks Pete. Those sound like excellent places to meet.
Anyone else have suggestions?
As Jim said, some people will probably come by water. We will need a good amount of dock space for all of the boats. (100s I'm sure) :D
Others will probably meet up with us along the way.
I most likely will be trailering and I can get to anywhere the group decides to meet.
Roger

Edited by arthureld on 03/04/08 - 6:31 PM

Posted by Yiger on 03/04/08 - 7:21 PM
#25

Maybe the SurfSide 3 dealership at Chelsea Pier (now part of Marine Max) wants to lend us some dock space! They are a huge Whaler dealer, why wouldn't they want 10 or 20 'potential' customers hanging around their docks?

Edited by Yiger on 03/04/08 - 7:22 PM

Posted by Pete on 03/04/08 - 8:42 PM
#26

The Chelsea Pier location is great. There is much around you there. Its a great part of NYC. Many possibilities for a fun outing.
The Jersey City ramp will not offer as much.
Great Kills / Gateway Park ramp is in the Great Kills harbor with several marinas. I know at least one marina / restaurant that can accomodate a few dozen whalers with slips (but would they want to ?). There is also good street access here for a walk around the area.
I'll get the name of the place. I'm having a senior moment.
Pete

Posted by sraab928 on 03/05/08 - 3:15 AM
#27

arthureld wrote:
sraab928 wrote:The only problem would be launching the Whaler. I would need someone to drop it in for me.


I can help you launch it.


Thanks for the offer. I guess at this point everyone will just need to figure out where we are going. I have no opinions as I have never boated in that area. Obviously the more 13 friendly the better... unless I find something else by then. :o:D

Posted by Pete on 03/05/08 - 9:03 AM
#28

Well, I called the Marina Cafe in Great Kills Harbor and they said they do not control the slips and could not commit dock space to an event.
I always just launch, head over to the restaurant, dock and hit the Tiki bar for a snack and drink. Never had an issue. I learned something new. Anyway, dont ask dont tell.
Pete

Posted by scrimshaw on 03/05/08 - 3:28 PM
#29

The attached site has alot of info and great pictures,http://marinas.com/view/overview/270erview/270

Posted by danedg on 03/05/08 - 7:22 PM
#30

So...Scrimshaw....
Coming from CT.....where are you going to launch?
....My left eye... starts twitching, thinking about trailering the Whaler...... into Manhattan...from Poughkeepsie...and back......
...talk about Hell's Gate.......

Posted by howard Werner on 03/05/08 - 8:24 PM
#31

I live very near Peekskill and George's Island Park just south of Peekskill. I am hoping to launch from one of those. Or I could be persuaded to trailer a bit further south but I would not want to get too close to the city.

Howard

Posted by arthureld on 03/05/08 - 11:47 PM
#32

It is hard to imagine a bunch of boats trailering the streets of Manhattan. :o
But after seeing those pics in Scrimshaw's link, I can't wait to boat around it.

Posted by scrimshaw on 03/06/08 - 3:24 AM
#33

I plan to plot a westerly course and enter New York Harbor via Hell's Gate. I have navigated this stretch of water when it has presented itself as a Mill pond and as an Olympic kayac course with class 5 rapids, both situations bring a smile to my face. Only with extreem seas would I pull and haul as New York Harbor is easily within my reach. Jim

Edited by scrimshaw on 03/06/08 - 12:41 PM

Posted by sraab928 on 03/06/08 - 6:07 PM
#34

Those pics in Jim's link look really nice. Have we decided on a date yet? If we are voting on that Ill throw a vote for the weekend of the 7th. I know meeting point is up in the air. Looks like probably somewhere on the water. Lets keep this going and make it a reality. :)


Posted by scrimshaw on 03/06/08 - 6:26 PM
#35

I'm open for the weekend of the 7th or the 21st, they only let me out of the Hospital every other weekend ! So guys come up with a date and pick a spot. My kids seem to think a hundred Whalers floating off of Liberty Island listening to some patriotic tune would be a good start..

Posted by arthureld on 03/06/08 - 6:42 PM
#36

How about if we plan for the 7th but if the weather is bad, we make it the 21st?

Posted by scrimshaw on 03/06/08 - 6:54 PM
#37

I'll follow the majority http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1j9EA...re=related

Edited by scrimshaw on 03/06/08 - 6:58 PM

Posted by sraab928 on 03/07/08 - 4:06 AM
#38

arthureld wrote:
How about if we plan for the 7th but if the weather is bad, we make it the 21st?


Works for me...:D

Posted by arthureld on 03/10/08 - 12:03 AM
#39

Great video Jim. I moved to NY two years ago and love this place.

Posted by oliver1234 on 03/10/08 - 12:50 PM
#40

arthureld wrote:
How about if we plan for the 7th but if the weather is bad, we make it the 21st?
I can make it both weekends

Posted by arthureld on 03/21/08 - 3:30 AM
#41

Looks like we have quite a few people coming but we still need to agree on at least one meeting place. So far, somewhere near the Statue of Liberty sounds best to me. Pete has come up with a couple locations near there. I think someone also mentioned Staten Island.
Speak up guys. Let's make a plan.

Posted by sraab928 on 03/21/08 - 4:34 AM
#42

I plan on being there - Hoping to bring my beat up Outrage.... Feel it might be more suitable than the 13. I know nothing about the area so I have to leave up to those in the know.

Posted by scrimshaw on 03/21/08 - 5:19 AM
#43

Hows this ? June 7th with rain date of the 21st, meet up in waters around the Statue , 10:30 AM, this will allow for those traveling. Amass and head up the Hudson. I'm game for anything with more votes. The trip around the island shouldn't take all that long so the 10:30 meet time still allows for some pokin around.

Posted by Pete on 03/21/08 - 6:10 AM
#44

Staten Island / Great Kills harbor public ramp is great, but without a place such as a restaurant with doc space to accommodate all the boats, Jersey City may be best.
Jersey City public launch in Liberty State Park is a stones throw from the Statue where you all may gather. This give an opportunity to tie up somewhere out of the way if needed, and launch near the meeting area.
That few miles around Staten Island to the Statue can be a little much for the smaller boats if the sea and wind are up.
I wear a mouth guard sometimes on my 17 Montauk............... I could slow down but..........
Pete

Posted by arthureld on 03/21/08 - 6:54 AM
#45

Statue of Liberty. Now that's a landmark. :D
I'm thinking Jersey City public launch in Liberty State Park will probably work great for those trailering. Of course, people can launch anywhere they want and meet us at the Statue of Liberty.
What do you guys think?

Anyone that want's to take down my cell # here it is - 631 741 0835. I'm Roger.
Call anytime.
It might be a good idea to compile a list of those who plan to attend along with contact info.

Edited by arthureld on 03/21/08 - 7:12 AM

Posted by sraab928 on 03/21/08 - 4:56 PM
#46

Im in for meeting at the Statue area... I don't think it will be that hard to find...lol... I will probably launch at the Jersey City public launch everyone is talking about. If anyone is heading up from South Jersey let me know - we can caravan up.

Im heading on vacation this week - put me on the list - I will be back by the 30th and will check the thread then.... Have a great week guys!

Edited by sraab928 on 03/21/08 - 4:57 PM

Posted by scrimshaw on 03/23/08 - 1:20 PM
#47

Roger is right lets start a list up.1) Roger 631 741 0835.
2) Jim 203 545 6801

Edited by scrimshaw on 03/23/08 - 1:23 PM

Posted by Riverwhaler on 03/25/08 - 5:11 AM
#48

I have done it twice in a Nantucket. Launched from the ramp under the GW Bridge in NJ. No problems there except when very windy down river. Hellsgate is nothing to worry about. Check local notice to mariners about Spiten dyvil RR Bridge as it has restricted openings till sometime in April. It could go longer. I would go if dates fit. Everyone I have taken along was really enthralled!

Posted by egerrity on 03/25/08 - 5:21 AM
#49

This sounds very fun.. Is anyone comming from Long Island that might have some ideas on where to launch? We can always stop at MarineMax at chelsea piers for somewhere to have lunch?? They might be interested in helping us out since they are a BW dealer. Any thoughts?

Posted by Bob Moravek on 03/25/08 - 1:06 PM
#50

FOR THOSE OF YOU GOING FROM LONG ISLAND OR CONNECTICUT, THERE IS
A PUBLIC LAUNCHING RAMP AT THE BAYSIDE MARINA, IN LITTLE NECK BAY.
IS IS VERY CLOSE TO THE THROGS NECK BRIDGE.
BAYSIDE MARINA PHONE 718-229-0097 THEY OPEN IN MID APRIL.
IT IS A VERY QUICK RUN INTO MANHATTAN FROM THERE.

Posted by arthureld on 03/26/08 - 4:38 AM
#51

I think Scrimshaws plan to meet somewhare around the Statue at 10:30 is a good one. And Liberty State Park seems like the closest place to the statue where we can all gather.
I'm not sure yet where I will launch but Jersey City public launch seems like a good bet.

It doesn't really matter where people launch, but what do you guys think of the plan of meeting at Liberty State Park near the Jersey City public launch at 10:30.

Keep the ideas coming guys but, I think we should get the meeting spot set in stone fairly soon. Then maybe we could plan the route in case some people would like to meet up with us along the way.

Posted by scrimshaw on 03/26/08 - 4:55 AM
#52

The Full Tour The general public participates in this activity daily......But not in a Whaler !! The link states the trip to be 3 hours.

Edited by scrimshaw on 03/26/08 - 5:05 AM

Posted by Pete on 03/26/08 - 7:19 AM
#53

I have launched a few times from Jersey City. The area nearest to the ramp is shallow and there is not much dock space. The "channel" is narrow. Dont count on tying up at the ramp or hanging around with power in that immediate area. There will also be plenty of boat traffic.
Bring a hook and plan on anchoring near by out of the way. If youre early you can anchor and enjoy the view. Make a plan for radio communication.
The cell phone thread is good.
There is a marina in the park. I do not know if you can use any of the facilities.
Pete

Posted by arthureld on 03/26/08 - 7:57 AM
#54

Thanks for the input Pete.
Hey Jim, I seem to recall hearing of a 3 hour tour before. :D

Posted by egerrity on 03/27/08 - 7:09 AM
#55

Im alittle leary about doing it in a 17 montauk.... on the other hand.. ill have plenty of boats around. Do we have a head count yet? We have to keep this thread going.

Posted by Pete on 03/27/08 - 9:34 AM
#56

You and your Montauk will be fine. It will be a great time and ride.

Posted by danedg on 03/27/08 - 1:36 PM
#57

Circumnavigation of Manhattan is approx. 35 miles...how long do you think it will take?

Posted by MW on 03/27/08 - 2:31 PM
#58

I would like to go but, I think it's asking a bit much from my 15 footer. I think that if my boat "HAD TO" it could make the journey, lower NY bay is pushing my boat past it's limits in the shipping lanes, and I'm not too "hot" on the idea about going through "Hell Gate" either (if the flotilla goes that way). I do wish everyone a safe voyage, and a safe trip, and please keep the PFD's on at all times on those rivers.
mw

Posted by arthureld on 03/28/08 - 12:32 AM
#59

danedg wrote:
Circumnavigation of Manhattan is approx. 35 miles...how long do you think it will take?


Scrimshaw posted a link above about a cruise ship that does it in 3 hours.

Sorry to see you probably won't be joining us MW. :(

Posted by Yiddil on 04/09/08 - 5:49 PM
#60

Always wanted to make this trip in Das BOat, but not sure about the trailering issues from Va. Additional problems are that i have the honor of doing the Potomac Swim the week before, and the Chesapeake Bay Swim the following week whcih conflicts with your date. But I will check with some people to be sure about the Chesapeake Bay swim date....I thought about putting in if I go underneath the GW bridge, never ben there so i need some directions should I attend:)

Posted by danedg on 04/11/08 - 5:52 PM
#61

Yiddil,
Make sure your trailer is in tiptop condition before attempting to access Manhattan...
Did it twice in a 24' box last week...VERY rough ride.....!:|

Posted by Yiddil on 04/13/08 - 7:47 AM
#62

My issues for this has always been the long trailer ride from Virginia...No the best thing for my back, and secondly, the Chesapeake bay Swim event is that weekend and i usually participate..

But I'll look and see...

My Trailer is the original trailer< Karavan, I greese here regularly and flush her, but don't do uch else so thats the other concern. I don't have to trailer at all and use her for winter storage mostly:)

If I dont trailer much this year, i will probably sell the trailer this year.......

Posted by arthureld on 04/23/08 - 3:54 AM
#63

Jeez guys, I'm taking a job in Holland and I don't know if I will be able to make this one. :(
I will see what I can do about making a trip back because I was soooo looking forward to this.

Posted by scrimshaw on 04/23/08 - 4:28 AM
#64

Roger, wow ! How long will you be gone ! That Island will be there when you get back. It's a long summer I'm sure we'll do it together at some point. My summer schedule is now in effect after a winter of pulling off shifts and overnights in the Hospital,three days a week till Sept. Ya-hooooo !!!!

Edited by scrimshaw on 04/23/08 - 5:08 AM

Posted by arthureld on 04/23/08 - 5:26 AM
#65

Jim, I leave May 5th and may stay for 6 months or more. But my home, car, boat & motorcycle are here on Long Island. So, I expect to be back often.
Maybe I can still fit the Around Manhattan trip into the plan.

Posted by scrimshaw on 04/23/08 - 5:32 AM
#66

Sounds like an adventure, I hear the days are looong there in the summer.

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/05/08 - 10:38 AM
#67

As I was out for the 1st time today I recieved a phone call, backed down to idle and spoke with someone named Robert, he stated that Whaler has interest in this event and we should be looking foward to promotional items;):D

Posted by arthureld on 05/05/08 - 1:14 PM
#68

Too cool Jim. I'm in Holland now, but am pretty sure I can make it back for that weekend.

Posted by Yiddil on 05/05/08 - 8:04 PM
#69

Scrim (jim) Ill be emailing you shortly. Is their a motel close to the liberty state park (were we are all going to meet....) thinking about the possibilities:) Thnaks Henry

Posted by arthureld on 05/08/08 - 10:26 AM
#70

Well, I bought my tickets back to NYC so I can make the Around Manhattan event. (I'm in the Netherlands now.)
There's no way I could miss this. :D

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/09/08 - 3:30 PM
#71

Well,here we are in 4 weeks the largest collection of Boston Whalers ever will converge upon The Statue of Liberty then navigate their way around Manhattan. We have drawn the attention of the people in Edgewater Florida (thats right Whaler)who will be providing us with trinkets, Tee-shirts,first aid kits ect. The time is upon us to firm up participation, make plans with others who will make the journey in your direction. The crew of the Scrimshaw will plot a course towards the West, meet up with a Ribside and Menemsha off Northport N.Y. then proceed towards Mamaroneck, N,Y meeting up with Robert for our entry into the Harbor, anyone heading in this direction feel free to contact me as there is safety in numbers and the more the merrier ! Please post your intent , vessel information, plans on means of arrival and contact info. Thanks , Jim

Posted by Yiddil on 05/12/08 - 1:39 PM
#72

Okay, who knows were the best and cheapest place to stay is near the State Park?

I would need to come up the day before and rest up, and then be ready to meet at the park...but I need that info...anyone know??? Thanks, henry

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/13/08 - 1:31 PM
#73

We are now in reciept of 35 Whaler Hats,First aid kits and a very large 50th anniversary flag thanks to the people at Whaler !

Posted by ladygullrock on 05/13/08 - 2:25 PM
#74

ladygullrock would like to join the flotilla. please advise on launch date, ramps, other.

thanks

Posted by HarleyFXDL on 05/13/08 - 4:34 PM
#75

I work in NYC right next to hell gate. The water is not as bad as some would think. I have been through there many times in a 14' alum boat with a 9.9 engine. It does get rough at times but nothing life threatening. The fee for launching in Nyack (near the Tappan Zee Bridge) is $20 for the day or $150 for the season. The two things you need to be aware of is the airmail you might get from the people on the bridges. I haven't seen much in recent years. The next thing is the RR bridge between the Bronx and Manhattan. The clearence at high tide is only 2-3 ft. The bridge opens for the circle line, not sure who else it opens for. Any other questions about the area I would be happy to answer.

PS I plan to be there with my 6 yo son in tow!

Edited by HarleyFXDL on 05/13/08 - 4:55 PM

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/13/08 - 5:18 PM
#76

Harley, my crew also stands at the ready to make the journey via the "Gate" .Again, I will start from Black Rock Harbor in Bridgeport,Ct some time around 8AM the passage towards NYC will see many additions as we proceed west, the flotilla will grow along the way as vessels meet up ,plans are to fly "The Flag" off Capt.Robert's Outrage that will join the armada in Mamaroneck,N.Y. for it's entrance to the Harbor then onward to the Statue. The plans remain loose as to participants arrival in the waters of the Statue of Liberty where the Flotilla will amass for a 10:30 AM departure head up the Hudson and cicle the city. Thats all I got from my end ! Weather and other conditions may affect the actual tide levels.


06/07/2008


01:32 AM High 6.5

08:10 AM Low -0.5

02:23 PM High 5.5

08:15 PM Low 0.2




06/08/2008


02:31 AM High 6.2

09:02 AM Low -0.2

03:20 PM High 5.5

09:13 PM Low 0.7

Edited by scrimshaw on 05/13/08 - 5:53 PM

Posted by luckydog on 05/13/08 - 6:52 PM
#77

Hi all,
Prior obligations have been set aside for this much more important (and fun) event. So count in another Montauk. I would like to meet up with those leaving out of Northport L.I.. Are any of you watching this thread? If not, Jim do you know any details on that ? It seems that you have contact with them.
Look forward to this gathering, Josh

Posted by egerrity on 05/13/08 - 7:06 PM
#78

Josh
How much fuel do you carry?

Posted by Lil Joe on 05/13/08 - 7:16 PM
#79

Scrimshaw

I am hoping to be squared away in time for the event and in the water with our 21' CQ, sailing out of Westbrook, CT . What are your thoughts on a start time assuming cruise speed ~ 25-30 mph in order to rendezvous with your party off of Black Rock?

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/13/08 - 8:59 PM
#80

Luckydog, you'll be added and will join with the crew from Lloyds Neck N.Y. , look foward to here from them, Lil Joe, I wouldn't guess more than an hour for you. The Capts from Long Island can contact Kurtgett@verizon.net for times Connecticut boats can contact me at Outrage21@gmail.com, we'll figure out logistics, Thanks

Edited by scrimshaw on 05/14/08 - 3:21 AM

Posted by luckydog on 05/14/08 - 6:44 AM
#81

Ed, I have the standard two 12 gallon tanks but I can also carry a portable 5 gallon tank in my front cooler if need be. I was assuming I would be able to refuel at some point (I will need to). I have a thirsty carbed 90hp. Round trip looks to be about 106 miles, figured I could make it about half way but would like to refuel prior to the 10:30 meeting. Any thoughts or advice?
Thanks, Josh

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/14/08 - 7:13 AM
#82

Fuel is available near the Statue.

Posted by egerrity on 05/14/08 - 7:20 AM
#83

I would really love to go, but I dont know if Im going to be ready on have all the kinks worked out by then. I live on the south shore of Long island so I was thinking of launching in kings point or somewhere or in the great neck area. Anyone going to be launching near there? Has anoyone thought of possibly stopping at Chealsea Piers at the Marine Max Whaler dealer?? I wonder if they would be receptive?

Posted by gerobertson1 on 05/14/08 - 8:02 AM
#84

Until I can get up to Maine and work on my trailer, my boats not moving anywhere any time soon. Anybody looking for a couple of stow aways! Do Whaler's have a steerage?
Sounds like a great time!
~G

Posted by HarleyFXDL on 05/14/08 - 10:59 AM
#85

Luckydog, if you're coming down the hudson like me, there are a few stops for fuel. There is one in NJ about 2 miles north of the GWB on the westside of the hudson. I would guess there are some more stations south of the GWB. I will be leaving Nyack at the Tappan Zee Bridge around 0900 hrs. I have a 27 gal tank which should be plenty for the trip.

Posted by luckydog on 05/14/08 - 11:35 AM
#86

Harley, I was going to leave from LI because I have folks there who can watch the baby and it is closer (by water) than leaving from Kingston. Trailering south is a posibility though. What is the launch ramp situation in Nyack?

Posted by howard Werner on 05/14/08 - 11:43 AM
#87

I am hoping to launch from Peekskill on the Hudson but I am not sure if I will have the boat ready.

Lucky Dog the Peekskill launch is easy and plenty of parking if you want to launch from there.

If I am not ready is it possible to sign on as a deck hand?

Posted by luckydog on 05/14/08 - 11:59 AM
#88

Howard, Already have another couple on board, but thanks. Sounds like you need a couple of "sick days" to get your boat ready.:D

Posted by HarleyFXDL on 05/14/08 - 6:01 PM
#89

Lucky, the Nyack ramp has a decent amt of parking. I've never seen it full. The ramp is new and straight forward. It is free now, but the rate is $20 after Memorial day.

Posted by luckydog on 05/14/08 - 6:27 PM
#90

Thanks Harley, If I decide not to leave from LI I will meet up with you down there in Nyack. I was going to trailer to LI so that we could leave our baby with her grandparents for the day, she's a bit young for such a long boat ride. I have to break her in slowly, @ 24 inches she can't see over the console yet.:o

Posted by Joe Kriz on 05/16/08 - 6:00 PM
#91

Jim,

Is there a complete list of people that are participating?

Has the final date(s) been set?

You never know who might want to show up at the last minute........

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/16/08 - 11:28 PM
#92

Joe, this one is difficult to count ! It's been out there on 3 sites for awhile now. I recieve countless e-mails from all over the place daily...who knows ? A request for "roll call " didn't amount to anything here, wish I knew how to get an accurate count . The date is June 7th, plans are to gather in the waters of the Statue of Liberty at 10:30 AM , we'll see ! Any help,ideas in coming up with a way to confirm participants would be great. I come up with 24 boats that I know of for sure, we'll see when we get there. Jim

Edited by scrimshaw on 05/17/08 - 10:27 AM

Posted by arthureld on 05/18/08 - 5:43 AM
#93

It would be cool if you made it to NYC for that weekend Joe. :D

By the way, I´m flying in from the Netherlands for this event.

Edited by arthureld on 05/19/08 - 3:36 AM

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/19/08 - 7:14 AM
#94

Although we are unable to provide an accurate count as to numbers of vessels participating I can offer up new info. USCG Sector Manhattan has identified this event and is looking towards providing escort vessels. To think from a daydream on a cold rainey day in Febuary we have now attracted the Factory and the government !!

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/21/08 - 1:41 PM
#95

The flotilla was contacted by Marine Max of Lindenhurst today, they asked to participate in our event and plan to bring out a 32 Outrage and other "goodies". With this addition and 12 new vessels joining us this week we can now with confidence state that this will be the largest EVER collection of Boston Whaler boats in one place !!!!

Posted by CaptD on 05/21/08 - 7:12 PM
#96

Wow, just found this! I'm going to do all I can to try and make this trip in my 170 Montauk.

I used to be a guide in the harbor, and I did the 2 hour tours around Manhattan for NY Waterway, the trip is a blast.

Hell gate isn't a big deal, just watch for traffic and take the whirlpools slower than faster, and be sure to stay south of the green? day board off Randalls Island. Lot's of really big rocks lurking just below the surface on the RI side.

As mentioned the RR bridge along the Hudson will need to be notified but it sounds like the escort will probably handle that...

Wow, sounds great. I'll be launching in Norwalk. Where and when would the nearest rendezvous for me to hook up with some of you guys headed for the statue? Mamaronek? What time?

I'm going to need to think about fuel...

One more thing. The East River and Harbor in general can get real snotty just from traffic, add a little weather..., I'm thinking the earlier the better for the trip in.

Boy I hope I can pull this off.

Posted by Yiger on 05/22/08 - 7:02 AM
#97

Don't plan on the CG escort making the proper notifications for you (ie the RR bridge). They might do it, but they aren't associated with the bridge operator anymore than the typical boater, and they'll probably assume the flotilla has made the appropriate notifications yourself.

Posted by egerrity on 05/22/08 - 7:09 AM
#98

If I can work out the kinks on my 17 in the next 2 weekends Im going to try to make this historic event. I havent seens anyone from Long Island Post?? Is anyone going from the South Shore?

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/22/08 - 7:46 AM
#99

As of today we're Official and recognized by the City of New York, permits have been filed with the Coast Guard and a float plan provided to the NYPD Marine Division.

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/23/08 - 10:01 AM
#100

This morning we recieved a call from the USCG requesting we notify the flotilla that Flare Guns are not permitted in New York Harbor, the possession of such items will result in a hefty fine ! We were also contacted by Mr. Phil Wolhar,Director of Marketing for MarineMax N.E., he has promised to supply our Flagship for the event, a 345 Conquest with triple 275 Verados !!,more Tee-shirts and trinkets as well ! Metro-North has also communicated with excitement over the event offering 100% support with opening bridges as we pass, With that being said and knowledge of 100+ confirmed participants welcome to the largest ever collection of Whalers anywhere !!!!

Edited by scrimshaw on 05/23/08 - 11:20 PM

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/27/08 - 3:06 PM
#101

The New York City Police Dept. Marine Division contacted us today and will monitor VHF channel 17,they offered to assist as needed ! Fox 5 NY has also come foward and expressed interest in this event . The logistics are complete and we need to offer a special thanks to Capt. Robert A.K.A 240 Outrage(BWOC) for his efforts in organizing this event ! Without his assist we wouldn't be where we are today....Thanks Robert ! All we need to do is pray for Fair Seas ! See everyone in Manhattan !!!

Edited by scrimshaw on 05/27/08 - 3:27 PM

Posted by CaptD on 05/27/08 - 5:09 PM
#102

Thanks Robert!

On another note; Thinking about fuel I decided to sit down with the charts and figure out some distances.

I am thinking of launching from Norwalk.

From Veteran's Memorial Park in Norwalk to the north side of the Statue it's approximately 40.1 nautical miles.

Statue to Statue around Manhattan I'm coming up with 31.4 NM.

If I do the entire trip from Norwalk that's 111.6 NM round trip. I'm thinking of a stopping at City Island to refill one of my 6 gallon cans both directions. Maybe not on the return if not necessary.

For those coming from the LI Sound, breaking off at Hell Gate to Head home a little sooner rather than completing the 'official' loop will save about 13-13.5 NM. Assuming the trip will be done in the clockwise direction.

I know there are some guys coming down the Hudson. Where are you planning to launch? The GWB site in Jersey is not good for me. Anyone coming from further north? Just wondering?

Dennis

Posted by Jeff on 05/27/08 - 6:48 PM
#103

You guys should have a great time. My friend Jim Dunlap emailed me today and said he would be going with his 21 revenge and asked if I would like to ride along. I wish I could but doubt I will. Can not wait to see some pictures.

Scrimshaw,
Please keep me posted if you get any news coverage I know some people that would be very interested in seeing it.

Posted by luckydog on 05/27/08 - 6:50 PM
#104

Dennis, I think I am going to launch in Nyack as Harley suggested, unless someone knows of a site on the lower Hudson that is less than $20. Does anyone know how much it is to launch at Peekskill?
Josh

Posted by arthureld on 05/28/08 - 12:10 AM
#105

egerrity wrote:
If I can work out the kinks on my 17 in the next 2 weekends Im going to try to make this historic event. I havent seens anyone from Long Island Post?? Is anyone going from the South Shore?


Hey egerrity, I'm have my Outrage 20 in Babylon and am still deciding how I want to get to the event. Are you thinking of riding your boat to Manhattan or trailoring?
Where are you?

Posted by egerrity on 05/28/08 - 9:04 AM
#106

arthureld...I was thinking that the a good place to launch would be Great neck somewhere. I would trailer from massapequa. At this point to dont think my schedule is going to alow me to me the run.. Maybe ill make the 2nd annual.
let me know what you are going to do? :@

Posted by arthureld on 05/28/08 - 9:34 AM
#107

Sorry to hear that you probably can't make it.
Can you tell me how to find more info about the launch spot in Great Neck?
If you decide to go, give me a call.
Roger 631 741 0835

Posted by howard Werner on 05/28/08 - 3:06 PM
#108

Josh

It costs 10 or $15 to launch at Peekskill.

Posted by CaptD on 05/28/08 - 7:51 PM
#109

LuckyDog, Josh, thanks for the reply. There seem to be several folks coming in from the Sound so I think I will stick with that plan. At least for now.

Dennis

Posted by arthureld on 05/29/08 - 12:11 AM
#110

Anybody launching from Long Island and meeting up with Scrimshaw?
I need to find a good place to launch on the north shore.

Here's a few I found searching around -

Glaser Town Ramp/Garvey's Point Ramp, Garvey's Point Road, (516) 671-4263. Residents: $5 daily, $20 yearly. Non-residents:$10 daily, $100 annually

Oyster Bay: Roosevelt Park Ramps, Larrabee Avenue, (516) 795-1000. Residents: Launch fee $15 seasonal, $6 daily. Parking fee $20seasonal, $6 daily. Non-residents: Launch fee $35 daily. Commercial launching $250 seasonal. No off-season charges. Season runsMemorial Day through Labor Day. Open 24 hours, all year.

Mill Dam Ramp, Mill Dam Rd., Huntington
631-261-7574
Resident launch and car permit fee
Non-Resident fee
Open year round 6 a.m. to 8 p.m.
Permits required Maemorial Day to Labor Day

Edited by arthureld on 05/29/08 - 5:57 AM

Posted by arthureld on 05/30/08 - 12:45 AM
#111

:D

Posted by scrimshaw on 05/30/08 - 6:12 PM
#112

Notice from U.S.C.G. recieved today.....This will be broadcast all over the Northeast on Saturday,sure glad I'm going to be there,could you imagine hearing this come across your radio ?

Edited by scrimshaw on 05/30/08 - 6:20 PM

Posted by Yiger on 05/30/08 - 7:18 PM
#113

Still unofficial as of yet, but it's in the works: expect a fly by from an Atlantic City Coast Guard helicopter. Wish I could be on the water though!

Posted by CaptD on 06/01/08 - 8:17 AM
#114

There's a tentative plan to meet up at Greens Ledge, just west of Norwalk islands sometime around 7:30 or 8.

Exact time hasn't been set yet. But this looks like the spot.

A couple of us are launching from South Norwalk, Veteran's Memorial Park, probably right around 7 AM.

Posted by scrimshaw on 06/01/08 - 8:43 AM
#115

Green's Ledge it is ,be there at 7:30 AM,Vhf 19.

Posted by oliver1234 on 06/01/08 - 4:23 PM
#116

looks like i won't be coming, boats in the shop with engine trouble that is beond my ability :( sory about that.

Posted by scrimshaw on 06/02/08 - 1:47 PM
#117

Marine Forecast

Edited by scrimshaw on 06/02/08 - 2:14 PM

Posted by egerrity on 06/03/08 - 5:53 AM
#118

Arthureld
Did you make your final decision on where to launch??

Posted by arthureld on 06/03/08 - 5:57 AM
#119

Not yet Ed. Do you have any suggestions?
Are you still thinking of joining us?

Posted by egerrity on 06/03/08 - 6:13 AM
#120

I saw the list of places you lised.. that seems a bit to far east... i was thinking more like Great neck or Sea cliff... I still have it in the back of my mind. Especially since I see the weather forecast. HMMMMM
Ill see if I can find some better locations and advise.

Posted by egerrity on 06/03/08 - 6:56 AM
#121

Arthureld
Looks like after loooking into it.. there isnt much selection.. the ones you listed arent to bad.
Anyone else have any suggestions?

Posted by FoggedIn on 06/05/08 - 3:51 PM
#122

Boy, don't I feel lucky today! Stumbled on this thread and it took about two seconds to decide that I'll be cruising around Manhattan this Saturday.

We're in a 1966 13 footer with a 30hp motor. We got it last summer and have been out about a dozen times. All on the Sound except once a couple of weeks ago on Candlewood Lake. It's always a blast...well, there was the one barge run-in on a windy day under the Throgs Neck Bridge but, that's a story for another time.

Any suggestions on the best place to put our boat in? We're not against trailering over to Liberty State Park or thereabouts if that's the best option.

We're really looking forward to it!

Sean

Posted by scrimshaw on 06/05/08 - 4:53 PM
#123

Welcome to the Flotilla ! You'll find Liberty Park as you best bet,I'm glad you found it as well. Your are now part of History in the Making !

Posted by arthureld on 06/07/08 - 1:22 AM
#124

It's 4:30 AM and I'm up and anxious to go. :)
I'll be heading for Bar Beach boat ramp - Port Washington, NY in one hour.
This is going to be fun.

Posted by HarleyFXDL on 06/07/08 - 1:20 PM
#125

Well it's 1614 hrs and I got back from the ride. It was a little rough in lower Manhattan bay. Aside from the rough waters downtown it was a great day. I came down the hudson with Luckydog and we made the statue around 1030. I had a problem with one of the carbs on my Yamaha and was able to make 3500 rpm max. The kicker worked really well. A special thanks to Josh (Luckydog) and his wife for sticking around and making sure my son and I got back ok. Can't wait for the next trip.

Posted by arthureld on 06/07/08 - 1:31 PM
#126

Thanks everyone who came and everyone who made this happen. It was great to meet a few fellow Whaler owners while experiencing something new to me. That was my first up close look at the Statue of Liberty and my first time around Manhattan by boat. I never put that many miles on my boat in one day before either.
Even though many of us had a few setbacks (fog and GPS died for me), it all came together very well.
I'm in next time too.

Posted by Lil Joe on 06/07/08 - 3:15 PM
#127

Greetings, all.

Congratulations!

You were all a great site to see!

I snapped a few photos of "The Convoy" moving up river at 11:10 AM today. I took the shots from the 28th floor of the Harborside Financial Center in Jersey City, N.J. Unfortulately, with all the haze and smog, visibility was pretty bad (as you saw first-hand).

There is one pretty good shot with the American Flag in the foreground (hopefully posted here). I have additional photos which I would be glad to send to any of you if you wish. Was that an '86 25' Revenge with blue canvas bringing up the rear of the group? If not, it looked like somebody with a whaler was trying to catch up to you all.

Congratulations to all once more! Sorry we could not make it (next time, for sure).

Posted by Lil Joe on 06/07/08 - 3:29 PM
#128

Please See attached photo

Posted by Bulldog on 06/07/08 - 3:34 PM
#129

Joe, that was no 1986 25' Revenge, that was the biggest 1987 20' Revenge there is proving that if you have twin engines and one isn't working at the dock, YOU STILL GO! We had seven people and could only make about 15 MPH, we found the problem was a defective spark plug over lunch, had spares, but the group was gone. Yiger's Coastie flyby was awsome, and we still had a great time. If you have a picture of the little boat that could, send it to jackmack@ptd.net , Thank You!....Jack

Jim, thanks for having us!

Posted by Lil Joe on 06/07/08 - 3:41 PM
#130

Bulldog

Here you are!

Posted by Lil Joe on 06/07/08 - 3:48 PM
#131

Dohhh!

Sorry, Jack.

I posted the wrong one.

This should do it (hopefully this is you).

Boy......what a sweet rig!!!

Posted by Bulldog on 06/08/08 - 6:39 AM
#132

Thanks Joe, that is us plodding along, we look so small and alone, but it wasn't that way at all....Jack