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When and if I repower my 17' Outrage I, I'm considering the E-tec since it's quite a bit lighter than the four-strokes.

Does anybody know how much heavier a new E-tec 115 is than a 2000 Johnson 90?

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This article in our article section should help you.

http://www.whalercentral.com/readarti...ticle_id=5

The Johnson 90 and 115 weigh the same.

The E-Tec 90 weighs less than the E-Tec 115.

I would suggest the 115hp on that model....

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Thanks, Joe.

Are you suggesting the E-tec 115 because the E-tec is less powerful than the old carbed Johnson 90? My Outrage I performs flawlessly with the 90...which is why I'm asking.

I just don't like the smoke, vibration at idle, and the noise.


EDIT: I think I found the answer to my own question. The 90 E-tec is a weak 90 (built on the same powerhead as the 75), whereas the 90 Johnson is a very strong 90 (which shares a powerhead with the 115).

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You are already aware that your model is rated for a max of 120 hp....

I read your other post and the 90 isn't bad at all..
However, not too many people complain that they have too much power. Usually people complain because they don't have enough...

The 115 E-Tec is a very fine engine and will out perform any standard 90hp...
Engines generally tend to last much longer if they just loaf around. A 115 E-Tec will loaf where a 90 will have to push harder thereby possibly not lasting as long.
That said, a loafing engine usually gets better fuel economy than an engine that is working hard. No matter what size... That's why I would recommend the 115 E-Tec over a 90hp of any brand...

One other thing I just thought of... If you ever decided to sell your boat, it will be worth more if there is a 115 on the back as opposed to a 90... I believe it will also be easier to sell as people tend to shy away from a boat that they think may be underpowered.

Just some things to think about...

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I run 38 mph with 3 large adults and 2 kids on board. And it planes instantly, even with all of that weight. The boat holds plane at about 13.5 mph...so torque is also sufficient.



I understand the Outrage II needs a few extra ponies, but I really can't imagine the 115 equivalent of my 90 on an Outrage I.

The Johnson on my boat is a year 2000. I bought it in 2002...about 10 hours after the prior owner repowered. The motor is like new, but it would be a more pleasant ride without the smoke and noise.

Resale doesn't matter to me 'cause I'm never selling it. My kids are 4, 6, and 8, and in about 5 or 6 years, it's their boat. Come to think of it, maybe that's a good reason to repower with a 70 hp.;)

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Depending on the size, hp, of the outboards some 2 strokes and 4 strokes are very similar in weight. Your looking at a 115 ETec weight is aboout 369 lbs. A new 2008 115hp Suzuki 4 stroke is 416 lb. Add the 2 stroke oil and oil tank to the weight of the Etec and 3 gal oil x 8 lbs about 3 lbs of equipment that's about 27 lbs added to 369= 396 lbs. There is about a 20 lb difference between the engines. I run Suzuki four strokes on my boats and they are extremely efficient, fast, quiet and with the six year warranty I have little to worry about.