Thread subject: Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos :: Moisture in Whaler Hull
Posted by Nick Grasberger on 07/21/07 - 3:46 PM
#1
Hi. I'm a new member posting for the first time. We've had a few Whalers, and we're looking for a vintage 18' Outrage for the kids. We've owned a few Whalers in the past, and would rather own a 20 year old Whaler than a new anything. Anyway, we've located an Outrage and I engaged a surveyor prior to making an offer. He told me his moisture gauge registered a 30% reading in the transom and a 25% reading in the aft port portion. Otherwise, he claims the 1989 boat is in great condition. What I'd like to know is whether such a moisture reading indicates a serious flaw in the boat. There are no "soft spots" and no delamination. I'm willing to wait for the right boat to come on the market, but I don't know if I'll find a better hull than this one.
I would very much appreciate any thoughts.
Thanks.
Posted by Derwd24 on 07/21/07 - 4:56 PM
#2
Hi Nick,
Welcome, and I think you'll find a lot of agreement on affinity for older Whaler design. From someone who recently purchased a "wet" 22' Outrage, the easiest thing to do in my opinion is to put the boat in the water and see how it sits (in the stern especially). Take into account things like engine size, batteries, gas tank locations, etc, and compare it to photo's of similar, known "dry" Whalers sitting in the water. If it sits high, you should be all set! If it doesn't, further investigation is needed.
You can also have it weighed too and compare it to factory numbers once you've taken into account all the equipment, engine, etc. but estimating that weight accurately can be a challenge.
I drilled holes along my keel and didn't get a whole lot of water out, but I know it's in there, so that's not a accurate test unfortunately. Do you know how he used the moisture gauge?
Dave
Posted by DelawareDan on 07/21/07 - 5:08 PM
#3
Welcome, Nick! Lots of folks around here would rather have a 20 year old BW than a new anything! The advice above is good. If you want to explore the topic further, try searching (left sidebar "search") the site for "moisture" or something. Search WhalerCentral/Forums.
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here for a recent thread (several pages long) on the subject.
Hope you've found your latest Whaler... that's a great model, and Oxford, MD is a great place to own a BW boat!
Edited by DelawareDan on 07/21/07 - 5:09 PM
Posted by jjaywill on 07/21/07 - 8:37 PM
#4
you did the right thing and got a marine surveyor, i run a family owned fiberglass business on the chesapeake, now i dont know what kind of meter he was using but i could make a very educated guess and say that 30 is saturated. i use 2 different types of meters when doing testing. On whalers sometimes you will not hear a soft spot becouse the glass is still still strong but behind that water has penetrated usually do to inproper bedding or in most whalers cases if the transom is wet becouse of a bad drain plug. most boats that have wet hulls are not to difficult to fix, we do not work on many whalers becouse that two part foam is a bitch, and really most whaler owners are comfortable knowing that the foam can get wet and the boat is still safe. just very heavy! if you have anymore questions you can pm me.
Posted by jjaywill on 07/21/07 - 8:42 PM
#5
also remember if your boat has really high moisture #s keep it out of the freezing weather, ice expands and seperates the glass from core.
Posted by jjaywill on 07/21/07 - 8:46 PM
#6
jjaywill wrote:
you did the right thing and got a marine surveyor, i run a family owned fiberglass business on the chesapeake, now i dont know what kind of meter he was using but i could make a very educated guess and say that 30 is saturated. i use 2 different types of meters when doing testing. On whalers sometimes you will not hear a soft spot becouse the glass is still still strong but behind that water has penetrated usually do to inproper bedding or in most whalers cases if the transom is wet becouse of a bad drain plug. most boats that have wet hulls are not to difficult to fix, we do not work on many whalers becouse that two part foam is a bitch, and really most whaler owners are comfortable knowing that the foam can get wet and the boat is still safe. just very heavy! if you have anymore questions you can pm me.
also please remember when i say wet hulls are not to difficult to fix thats what i do for a living, its very difficult to do a recore on boats weather its balsa, closed cell or any core really, but that 2 part foam i really have a problem with!
Posted by danedg on 07/23/07 - 3:08 PM
#7
JJ
I have a coupla "soft" spots after 45 years, and have "privately"considered using that product "Great Stuff" (the minimal expanding foam) to refill the voids.
Any thoughts?
Posted by Nick Grasberger on 07/24/07 - 2:44 PM
#8
I really appreciate the feedback. Assuming the boat is still available, I plan to see it in a few weeks and make a decision.
I'll keep you posted.
What a great website!
Posted by DelawareDan on 07/24/07 - 4:33 PM
#9
Danedg: it will stick, and will bear a fair amount of weight. Are you thinking of drilling a couple of holes in the deck and injecting it, then putting weights on for a "clamp"? I'd suggest that you tape off the general area, so that when it spews, you'll have an easier time cleaning up. Don't get any on your hands or it will take a week to wear off (with your skin) unless you use a belt sander!
:o