Thread subject: Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos :: New E-tec motor design is out
Posted by gchuba on 06/26/14 - 9:01 AM
#1
I have not pulled up the info yet but when discussing other topics with an E-tec tech he mentioned that information on the new motor is released. Not just a couple of tweaks. New design. Looking forward to reading about it.
Garris
Posted by aeriksen on 06/26/14 - 11:35 AM
#2
I like the performance improvements but the new look is pure ugly> IMO.
Posted by Whalerbob on 06/26/14 - 12:08 PM
#3
aeriksen wrote:
I like the performance improvements but the new look is pure ugly> IMO.
I think you're being too kind.
Posted by pirate on 06/26/14 - 7:01 PM
#5
I'm looking for a 40hp for my 13 and the new e-tec weighs 60 lbs more than a yamaha. not good
Posted by Paulsv on 06/27/14 - 7:38 AM
#7
According to the brochure, the 90 HP is 390 pounds! Seems awfully heavy.
Posted by duf on 06/27/14 - 8:48 AM
#8
Wow, that is ugly, and even with the options you have to change the inserts to numerous different colors, its still ugly. Maybe you could try lipstick.
Duf
Posted by seahorse on 06/28/14 - 5:30 AM
#10
Paulsv wrote:
According to the brochure, the 90 HP is 390 pounds! Seems awfully heavy.
You may be confusing the standard 3-cylinder 90 hp of 320# and the more powerful V-4 90 HO that weighs 390#
Posted by tmann45 on 06/28/14 - 8:17 AM
#11
duf wrote:
Wow, that is ugly, and even with the options you have to change the inserts to numerous different colors, its still ugly. Maybe you could try lipstick.
Duf
To each their own, but lipstick on a pig is still a pig. :-)
Posted by Mambo Minnow on 06/28/14 - 10:11 AM
#12
Fugly!
Posted by kamie on 06/28/14 - 11:00 AM
#13
I actually like the look, and 500 hours with no service is pretty nice.
Posted by Joe Kriz on 06/28/14 - 1:16 PM
#14
seahorse wrote:
Paulsv wrote:
According to the brochure, the 90 HP is 390 pounds! Seems awfully heavy.
You may be confusing the standard 3-cylinder 90 hp of 320# and the more powerful V-4 90 HO that weighs 390#
Looks like they are still going to keep the older 90hp 3 cylinder model around and added the 90hp 4 cylinder HO model which weighs more.
Posted by Paulsv on 06/28/14 - 5:32 PM
#15
Joe Kriz wrote:
seahorse wrote:
Paulsv wrote:
According to the brochure, the 90 HP is 390 pounds! Seems awfully heavy.
You may be confusing the standard 3-cylinder 90 hp of 320# and the more powerful V-4 90 HO that weighs 390#
Looks like they are still going to keep the older 90hp 3 cylinder model around and added the 90hp 4 cylinder HO model which weighs more.
Yes, you are exactly right. I thought they were replacing the 3 cylinder.
Posted by Weatherly on 06/29/14 - 5:50 AM
#17
I read the brochure and noticed the 90 HO is a V-6; is that correct or a typo?
Posted by seahorse on 06/29/14 - 5:53 AM
#18
A 90 HO is a V-4 engine
Posted by jharrell on 06/29/14 - 12:45 PM
#19
Joe Kriz wrote:
jharrell,
Where in the world did you get the 359 pounds from?
I took Larry's word for it in the post I provided a link too.
Here is the official press release stating 20lbs lighter than the next lightest 4-stroke (assuming 115):
http://www.mercurymarine.com/news-and...oke-outbo/
It is annoying when manufacturers don't update their website with released products. I still don't think ICON gauges can be found on the Evinrude website, only I-command years after release.
Edited by jharrell on 06/29/14 - 12:49 PM
Posted by Silentpardner on 06/29/14 - 12:53 PM
#20
If you just use the evinrude link that Joe posted back near the beginning of this thread on EVINRUDE engines, and then scroll down to the bottom of the page, there is a section there called "Parts and Accessories". In it, you will find the link to the ICON gauges page.
I agree with Joe, Does anybody actually read these pages before they post?
I would add, does anybody actually read anything before they post?
Posted by jharrell on 06/29/14 - 1:12 PM
#22
Joe,
Don't thank me, Larry posted the engine info over a month ago and member paddlepicker already has a 115 mounted on his Dauntless 160.
Posted by Geo on 06/29/14 - 1:19 PM
#23
These new outboards are not all that attractive looking.
Edited by Geo on 06/29/14 - 1:21 PM
Posted by butchdavis on 06/29/14 - 1:47 PM
#24
From a photograph seen on another site it appears Scout Boats is now shipping boats with the new E-tecs (G2) installed.
I'm an old traditionalist and believe Evinrudes should be white but the Red G2 looks pretty terrific on the Scout.
Posted by gchuba on 07/01/14 - 10:12 PM
#25
I am kinda liking the new look the more I see it. Really a drastic change from the norm. I hope it works. Heck of a risk. As the new style sells, then the wonderful early used motor styles will glut the market and give folks a chance with a good motor without bankrupting themselves. The maintenance profile they show compared with the other motors is impressive.
Garris
Posted by Joe Kriz on 07/01/14 - 11:01 PM
#26
Looks are only in the eyes of the beholder.
I don't think everyone liked the looks of the first Boston Whaler either, or the first VW Beetle.
Looks don't mean much in the big scheme of things. Others might not like the look today but love it next week or next year.
Only time and sales will tell the story.
(EDIT: I have deleted some post that were not on topic. This discussion is about the new Evinrude and the new Evinrude motors only.)
Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/01/14 - 11:08 PM
Posted by Weatherly on 07/04/14 - 1:55 PM
#27
I could care less what the engine color is or that it has interchangeable colored engine panels and accents.
I am keenly interested in all the technology the Evinrude E-Tec G2 has:
salt-water resistant fuel system, trim assist function, oil level and sight glass for the gear oil, indexed spark plugs, extra anodes, adjustable exhaust bleeds in the prop, inside the boat flushing hose under top cover, super quick and easy rigging, non-moving rigging hose when the engine turns and tilts, , 500 hr service interval or 5 years, 5 yr. corrosion warranty, titanium dioxide undercoating, low water pickups on nose cone gearcase, enclosed power steering and trim system, etc.
Posted by gchuba on 07/04/14 - 2:26 PM
#28
Keep going Weatherly, I love it.
Garris
Posted by Ric232 on 07/05/14 - 1:26 PM
#29
pirate wrote:
I'm looking for a 40hp for my 13 and the new e-tec weighs 60 lbs more than a yamaha. not good
Not true. The published 214lb weight of the 40hp Yamaha is for a 15 inch short shaft model with no power trim. Same goes for the 216lb published weight of the Mercury. My Merc 40 weighs 233lbs, stamped right on the bracket. Yamaha would be 231 - 233 lbs. The Evinrude weighs 240 lbs for the 20 inch power trim model. It's published on the website and I've personally seen it stamped on numerous 40-60hp E-Tecs. So for a 7-9 lb difference you have a larger displacement, a larger gearcase, not to mention . . . all the 2 stroke benefits.
BTW, the 40 is not one of the new models.
Posted by Ric232 on 07/05/14 - 1:29 PM
#30
butchdavis wrote:
From a photograph seen on another site it appears Scout Boats is now shipping boats with the new E-tecs (G2) installed.
I'm an old traditionalist and believe Evinrudes should be white but the Red G2 looks pretty terrific on the Scout.
I'm also a traditionalist and believe Evinrudes should be blue. Johnsons should be white. :)
Posted by Ric232 on 07/05/14 - 1:49 PM
#31
Keep the faith, guys. I too shook my head when I first saw the G2, thinking E-Tecs already look great so why go mess with that aspect by hanging a bunch of extra plastic on the thing so it doesn't even look like an outboard. I could already hear the jokes that they look a snowmobile hanging azz-down on the transom. Now that I've seen that the look is largely influenced by the mechanicals, I'm withholding judgment. Personally, I think the ugly vantage point is from the helm looking back. They look like square robot heads with square earmuffs. The white ones look like Chrysler outboards. Regardless, it is a bold move by BRP and the real-world performance must make our jaws drop or the G2 may not survive.
Personally, I cannot wait to see real test results. I applaud BRP's commitment to bringing Evinrude back to its glory days of being #1 in the world (while under the leadership of engineering genius Charles Strang, who is still going strong today at age 90+).
Posted by kamie on 07/05/14 - 1:58 PM
#32
Weatherly wrote:
inside the boat flushing
This might be the best thing, especially if you keep the boat on a lift. It's a real pain to access the flushing port hanging over the transom.
Posted by Weatherly on 07/07/14 - 3:23 AM
#33
No more primer bulbs in the fuel line. The E-Tec G2 is a self-primer.
Posted by Silentpardner on 07/20/14 - 9:31 PM
#34
Does anyone know if Evinrude has fixed the biggest problem the E-Tecs have with this new "G2"? I am unable to find an answer anywhere.
The problem with the Gen1 E-tecs has always been threefold:
1) all voltage is regulated through EMM
2) the EMM is water-cooled, and commonly fails due to corrosion in saltwater use
3) the EMM costs about $1500 when it does fail.
Perhaps I have been mislead about this problem, but people believe this as fact and this is why we don't see a lot of those E-Tecs around here.
First, is there any truth to this description of the problem?
Second, if this is true, has it been corrected in the new G2 design?
Posted by tmann45 on 07/21/14 - 5:51 AM
#35
Silentpardner wrote:
Does anyone know if Evinrude has fixed the biggest problem the E-Tecs have with this new "G2"? I am unable to find an answer anywhere.
The problem with the Gen1 E-tecs has always been threefold:
1) all voltage is regulated through EMM
2) the EMM is water-cooled, and commonly fails due to corrosion in saltwater use
3) the EMM costs about $1500 when it does fail.
Perhaps I have been mislead about this problem, but people believe this as fact and this is why we don't see a lot of those E-Tecs around here.
First, is there any truth to this description of the problem?
Second, if this is true, has it been corrected in the new G2 design?
I could not find any "internet data" to support this. Could you point me to some sources for this belief?
Posted by gchuba on 07/21/14 - 7:23 AM
#36
tmann,
To read up on the cooling of the EMM for the E-tecs try searching the heading of "EMM water cooling for E-tecs outboards". There is reference to what Silentpardner is discussing. It happens but obscure. Not just saltwater buildup but sand, sea weed, etc... I think it is on the discharge side of the system. The EMM will shut down the motor when it senses the heat itself (kinda a built in thermostat, similar to if it senses actual motor overheating) but the motor will be running at the correct temperatures. Happens but with proper flushing/cleaning techniques, rare. Not "commonly". If common, they would not have their "following".
Garris
Edited by gchuba on 07/21/14 - 7:27 AM
Posted by Silentpardner on 07/21/14 - 7:46 AM
#37
OK, did they fix that with the new G2?
Posted by CES on 07/21/14 - 8:07 AM
#38
duf wrote:
Wow, that is ugly, and even with the options you have to change the inserts to numerous different colors, its still ugly. Maybe you could try lipstick.
Duf
Lol...couldn't agree with you more.
Posted by wing15601 on 07/21/14 - 8:07 AM
#39
I think people will come to like the new E-TEC design when they see how nice it looks disappearing into the spray ahead.