Thread subject: Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos :: What Model Whaler Do I Have?
Posted by Joe Kriz on 09/27/11 - 5:02 PM
#1
We have noticed that many people do not list their correct model of their boat in the boat info section which is located in their profile.
This sometimes can be confusing for new members because they may be comparing them to the newer models which have 130 Sport, 170 Montauk, etc....
The older Classic models are different.
Before putting your boat info in your profile, check this Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) for the correct model name of your Whaler.
http://www.whalercentral.com/faq.php?...p?cat_id=5
For those of you that can't identify your model due to customization or complete removal of original interior, then you have what we call a "
Custom" model.
Example:
1962 Custom 13'
1971 Custom 16'
1978 Custom 17'
Even though you may have a Classic 16' 7" model, 1975 and earlier are called 16' models and 1976 and later are called 17' models.
Again, both the above models are the exact same length, 16 feet 7 inches but have different model names.
Hope this helps everyone understand a little more about model numbers and which model they actually have.
Posted by Jack Jordan on 09/27/11 - 6:57 PM
#2
The older Classic models are different.
Well said Joe. It should be fairly easy to ID a model based on the furniture configuration. The year is a different story. I for one would like to see more info from members on things like the 3rd grip on the 13'. And what year BW moved the anchor light from the port side to the starboard. What year did the knurled stantion fitting move from the bottom to the top. Inquiring minds would like to know.
Posted by spuds on 09/27/11 - 9:01 PM
#3
So if my Nauset has been a Nauset for 50 years, if I add a stern seat does that REALLY now change it to an Eastport?
: )
Posted by Joe Kriz on 09/27/11 - 9:14 PM
#4
The Stern seat was optional when the boat was new which would have turned it into an Eastport...
So, if you put in an original replacement stern seat, then it would turn it into an Eastport model....
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=15
While we are discussing the 16' models, I see far too many people think they have a Sakonnet model just because it has an RPS pilot seat.
To be a true Sakonnet model, it needs to have both the RPS and the Forward Platform...
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=26
Posted by gusgus on 10/16/11 - 3:19 PM
#6
Great read.
I agree that a BW becomes what you make it. The name used seems to be the sticking point. If I customize, how can anything become a factory name?
I started out with an Outrage and now it's a corvette?
srsly?????
Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/16/11 - 3:38 PM
#7
We are talking older 16/17 and smaller Whalers....
The Outrage hull was never offered in 3 or 4 different interior models although they did make a Newport 18 for one year which had the Outrage 18 hull.
Your Outrage looks stock to me however I do have a question that you haven't answered from your personal page.
Are those 4 Grab Rails installed on your gunwales?
I have never seen that done before.
Posted by gusgus on 04/14/12 - 5:01 PM
#8
WOW, Joe, I didn't mean to keep you waiting for an answer to this question. I had thought I answered it, but???
YES, those are 4 ea. grab rails installed and I asked the owner and he said they were on the boat in the boat store when bought new.
I had wondered if he installed them later, since his medical condition made him squeamish out on the water.
Posted by mrandmrsraposo on 06/23/12 - 6:16 PM
#9
Hi Joe,
I am hoping you can offer me your expertise. I am about to purchase a 21ft Boston Whaler. When trying to identify how old the hull was I came across a number on the transom...that ends in '73'. After reading on your website I discovered that this means the boat is from 1973...which I find hard to believe because it is in pretty good shape for a 39 year old boat! Is this a 'classic'? If so, what do you think is fair to pay for it? He is asking $11,500 with a Mariner Magnum III 150hp engine (2001). I am desperate for the opinion of someone who knows more than me!! I have photographs too. Thank you in advance!
Posted by mrandmrsraposo on 06/24/12 - 2:06 AM
#11
Joe,
Many thanks for all the help. I have read through all the articles. They have been extremely informative. I am just still confused as my HIC number which is stenciled definitely says it's a 1973... but our boat looks slightly different from all the other photos I have seen of 1973 models.
Mark
Posted by Joe Kriz on 06/24/12 - 10:13 AM
#12
A Boston Whaler Stencil number would not show us the year in the number.
Only an HIN (Hull Identification Number) tag on the boat will show us the year. All HIN numbers are exactly 12 characters in length.
The numbers you gave us are ALL wrong.....
Stencil = AC8292
HIN = BWAC82920473
These seem to be forgeries...... both numbers have 8292 in them and are completely different from other genuine Boston Whaler numbers for the Outrage 21 models...
All Boston Whaler HIN numbers start with BWC for Boston Whaler Corporation...
I suggest you look at the list below again and maybe take some photos of your numbers so we can see them.
A photo of the boat would be good too so we know if this is actually have a Whaler or not.
Your numbers do not fit anywhere in this list.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=97
Let us know.... and post some photos
EDIT:
Upon further examination of your numbers, you don't seem to have the correct stencil number.
Here is a photo of a 1973 Outrage 21 Banana hull.
http://www.whalercentral.com/images/p...by_rdd.jpg
The stencil number is up front on one of the bow steps or in the bow locker.
If your hull doesn't look like this, then you might not have a Whaler.
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=15855
Edited by Joe Kriz on 06/24/12 - 11:09 AM
Posted by Whaler Gal on 10/07/12 - 3:39 PM
#13
I have done my research and I cannot find any pictures of a 1997 15' Standard, which I believe I have. It has "Star board" seats and side rails, a fiberglass side console, and no backs to the seats. BWCRA088A797 Anyone know for sure? Are there any others out there?
http://s1286.beta.photobucket.com/use...l/library/
Edited by Joe Kriz on 10/07/12 - 4:52 PM
Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/07/12 - 4:52 PM
#14
Whaler Gal,
First of all, early Standard models did not have a console.
You sit in the back and steer the motor with the tiller handle and not a steering wheel.
Here is a Standard 13' model:
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...oto_id=111
However, in 1996 and 1997, there was an optional side fiberglass console as an option.
So, it appears you do have a 1997 Standard 15' with the optional fiberglass side console.
Out of curiosity, why did you put down you had a Montauk in your Boat Info when you thought you had a Standard model?
I had to delete that info as it was not correct.
Posted by Whaler Gal on 10/07/12 - 5:22 PM
#15
Well I actually have both.
Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/07/12 - 6:52 PM
#16
OK.
But you don't know the year of your Montauk?
I had to delete that because you didn't put the year in.
If you don't know, just ask or take a look on the left sidebar for the information.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 10/07/12 - 11:48 PM
Posted by YankeeWhaler on 11/20/12 - 7:08 PM
#17
I've recently purchased a 1988 "montauk" but the holes in the deck and the generic center console suggest it was a supersport or a striper. Is there a way to determine how it was sold originally?
Posted by Joe Kriz on 11/20/12 - 8:40 PM
#18
If you know for a fact it is a Montauk with all the original style interior, then it should look exactly like these.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=14
The only way to find out what model it left the factory as is to contact Chuck Bennett at Boston Whaler with your Stencil and HIN numbers.
He can tell you what it was and where it was first shipped to.
If you have aftermarket console and seat, then you have a "Custom" model.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 11/20/12 - 8:46 PM
Posted by YankeeWhaler on 12/17/12 - 4:09 PM
#19
Could you please send me Chuck Bennett's contact info.
Posted by RossP on 02/12/13 - 4:53 PM
#20
I have recently aquired a nice little whaler. I know it is a 15 foot Custom Sport made in 1978 I think . I have posted a picture of the id plate on my personal page. It looks to me like it ends in 78l, in the reading I have done I do not know if tit ends in "L" or "I". Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Ross
Posted by Joe Kriz on 02/12/13 - 5:00 PM
#21
YankeeWhaler,
The Site Search on the left sidebar is your friend.
I typed in Chuck Bennett and came up with this.
http://www.whalercentral.com/search.p...p;chars=50
cbennett@whaler.com
Ross,
You would have either a "Custom" or a "Sport".
Can't be two models at the same time.
So, yes, you have a Custom model.
Looks like it is most likely an eye (i)
Most L are upper case with the leg at the bottom.
BWC3912?M78i
Don't know if the question mark above is an "A" or a "B"
However, it most likely would be a "A".
BWC3912AM78i
5A????
Built in April of 1978 as a 1978 year model
See this list:
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...cle_id=109
Edited by Joe Kriz on 02/12/13 - 5:31 PM
Posted by RossP on 02/12/13 - 5:18 PM
#22
Thanks Joe, just wanted to confirm it was an "I", I have it listed as a custom on my personal page the stencil number is 5A2944. Looking forward in being part of this community.
Ross
Posted by Joe Kriz on 02/12/13 - 5:28 PM
#23
Yes, it is really supposed to be a lower case eye (i)
An upper case eye I can look like a one 1 .
I will add you to that list now that we know your stencil number.
By the powers invested in me, I now claim you a part of this community. :)
Edited by Joe Kriz on 02/12/13 - 5:35 PM
Posted by Aviatorshaun on 04/10/13 - 9:59 AM
#24
Hey guys. New to the site. I have grown up around various boats but now dipping heavily into BWs and learning how to do fiberglass work.
That being said, I am thinking about picking up a really cheap old hull and wondering what model this boat originally might have been. The seller is saying its a 1971 17 ft. I seem to think from looking through these forums its a 16 custom. I don't even know where to begin looking for the original numbers/serial/factory, like you guys all talk about on this board. Any help you guys could give would be greatly appreciated.
Also, if there is no plate that says max HP, HIN, max persons/weight, how do I know what the legal way of repowering this hull? And lastly, any suggestions on how to repower it, to prevent cavitation and other issues?
Thanks,
Shaun
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hiov1r5y3k9...281%29.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sxudec997io...4%20AM.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cf3hic44mij...2%20AM.jpg
Posted by Aviatorshaun on 04/10/13 - 1:13 PM
#26
Thanks Joe, good to know.
Posted by Aviatorshaun on 04/10/13 - 1:50 PM
#28
I most certainly will do. I'm not able to look at it until Fri.
Just out of curiosity, what is the main difference between the Montauk and other models? Just interior or hull shape too?
Posted by Joe Kriz on 04/10/13 - 1:54 PM
#29
Hulls are basically all the same up to 1975 as they are 16 models.
In 1976 the hull changed and now called a 17 model.
You can tell the difference noted by the bow locker size in one of the links I gave you above.
Just the interior makes the model.
Posted by Aviatorshaun on 04/10/13 - 2:00 PM
#30
Joe Kriz wrote:
Hulls are basically all the same up to 1975 as they are 16 models.
In 1976 the hull changed and now called a 17 model.
You can tell the difference noted by the bow locker size in one of the links I gave you above.
Just the interior makes the model.
Oh, ok. Pretty straightforward. Any guess what the square tubing is in the pictures I linked above? I'm starting to wonder if this wasn't converted into a bass boat back in its day.
I'm looking to find either this or another project boat to learn how to do good glasswork.
Think this little 16 ft BW has room for a T top, hard or soft? I've never been a big fan of biminis.
Posted by echo5000 on 04/16/13 - 7:17 AM
#31
Just realized I may a Sourpuss hull rather than a Sport hull, just based on the front storage area size. It would also put it at a 1971 to 1975 hull, not a 1976 like the seller said it was. Interesting. The plate on the transom is badly damaged and has layers of paint over it.
Posted by Tom W Clark on 04/16/13 - 8:00 AM
#32
There is no difference between the hull of a Sourpuss and a Sport.
Posted by jw0287 on 10/11/13 - 8:53 AM
#33
NC228649DO75 I have been trying to fo a HIN search but the government site that is free via noaa is not up due to the government shutdown, what a crock of crap. Do those number mean anything? There on registration for 1975 whaler.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 10/11/13 - 8:54 AM
Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/11/13 - 8:55 AM
#34
That is a state registration number and only means something to that state. Looks like North Carolina.
What size is this Whaler?
Can you see the Stencil number?
Posted by jw0287 on 10/11/13 - 9:00 AM
#35
no the stencil has been painted over, and i its actually NCZ28649DO75 or NCZ28649D075 where zero or "o" change. i check splash well and anchor locker and stern of the boat. all paint. are the stencil number etched or raised like the hin on the 1996 outrge II i used to own or are the smooth like a stamp or something?
too bad its painted, it may even be one of those 1976 models ur looking for to go in the database. too bad i couldnt help.
theres pics of it on my personal page, its been painted a desert tan color, but should be light blue, i can see the blue still in some spots.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 10/11/13 - 9:12 AM
Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/11/13 - 9:12 AM
#36
Great.
I see it is a Smirkless 16 hull with the wide narrow bow locker.
That would make it 1975 or earlier.
The Stencil number would be on the inside of the transom below the motor.
You would need to remove the paint from that area to reveal the Stencil number. Then you could send that to Boston Whaler to obtain your HIN number that was originally on the boat.
All HIN numbers start with BWC
See #III in this list: Model Year Format
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=61
Posted by jw0287 on 10/11/13 - 9:15 AM
#37
Thanks for taking time to check out the pics, I dont know if there is such thing as a smirk hull but smikrless sounds better anyway, and I don't even know what smirkless means.
Just amused at the word.
Thanks for the help.
Posted by jw0287 on 10/11/13 - 9:28 AM
#39
Thanks. And yes you were right based on articles and boston whaler input, smirkless.
Any thread on smirkless for smirked for seaworthy-ness seems like the smirk would take waves better an the smirkless would rock less.
Posted by jw0287 on 10/18/13 - 6:18 AM
#40
Hey Joe, or any knowledgeable whaler personnel, I have sanded down some of the layers of paint, a picture has been attached to my personal page, all the way at the bottom, numbers are 35624
am i missing a letter? there isnt one, i sanded down a lot and dont want to go thru the gel coat.
perhaps i could start sanding in the anchor locker? an if i where using nautical terms where would I sand?
I did some google search and found out that some early model whalers 13 and 16foot only had numbers no letters. So my boat could be older then I thought. Thanks for any help.
Edited by jw0287 on 10/18/13 - 6:22 AM
Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/18/13 - 9:51 AM
#41
35624 would make it at the end of 1966 16' models
1966 ................. 34400 thru 35800
Check out all the early numbers here:
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=61
Just goes to show everyone that those State numbers mean absolutely nothing. They only mean something to the state that issued them so the state can collect their tax. They don't care about numbers, other then money.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 10/18/13 - 10:16 AM
Posted by jw0287 on 10/18/13 - 10:49 AM
#42
Joe Kriz wrote:
35624 would make it at the end of 1966 16' models
1966 ................. 34400 thru 35800
Check out all the early numbers here:
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=61
Just goes to show everyone that those State numbers mean absolutely nothing. They only mean something to the state that issued them so the state can collect their tax. They don't care about numbers, other then money.
So your telling my my whaler just got cooler. Thanks Joe for having the information gathered. I sent an email to BW, an asked them for more information about the boat via stencil number.
Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/18/13 - 11:29 AM
#43
BW can tell you what model it was when it left the factory.
They obviously cannot tell you what model it is now.
And, because you say you have an aftermarket console and seat, we all know it is now a Custom model.
Posted by jw0287 on 10/22/13 - 12:06 PM
#44
From BW:
Hi Mr. Yancoskie,
Please excuse the delayed response...vacation.
According to our records; serial number 35624 was built in our old Rockland, MA factory as a 16'7" Nauset model and was originally shipped out on 11/9/66. This was the only identification number assigned to this boat from the factory. The 12 character hull identification numbers were not started until November of 1972.
Attached is a page from the old brochure...
Regards,
Chuck Bennett
Boston Whaler, Inc.
(877) 294-5645
Edited by Joe Kriz on 08/20/16 - 2:40 PM
Posted by altair on 11/05/13 - 3:08 PM
#45
Hi Joe
thanks for your precious advice, I've discovered my Sakonnet was built in 1972...but I need your help, if any of you can post a pic of the plate regarding all the specs of the boat, on my Sakonnet it's unreadable, in fact I'd like to restore even this small part
thank you again
Edited by altair on 11/05/13 - 3:15 PM
Posted by Clyde in TS on 05/18/14 - 5:21 AM
#46
O gurus of Whalerdom: Did any of the 15 foot whalers, other than the Striper model, have 4 holes drilled between the bow storage area and the open area of the boat?
Posted by Joe Kriz on 05/18/14 - 3:49 PM
#47
cg,
Unfortunately, anyone can drills holes anywhere in the boat so we have no way of knowing what they were intended.
Yes, the Sport models (and others) had an option of the Forward Pedestal Seat like the Striper model had.
Here is the one I had on my Montauk which was an option.
http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...hoto_id=63
Also see this:
http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...hoto_id=64
There were lots of different options for different models.
Rear platforms, front platforms, rear seats, etc.
Posted by Clyde in TS on 05/19/14 - 4:56 AM
#48
Thanks Joe. I guess I will have to fabricate my own. I think I will use the 3/4 in hole in a Swivl-Eze type of mount. Do you think anyone else would want one? My boat is currently a 1985 15 foot Custom.
Clyde
Posted by reichrd on 10/06/15 - 6:16 PM
#49
New to this forum and these boats. I just bought a boat from a guy down in New Smyrna Beach FL that was advertised as 1971 Boston Whaler Montauk. After reading up a bit on it I discovered that the Montauk was hadn't come out in 1971. There is no wood anywhere in the boat, so I guess that makes it a 1971 custom. I'm curious to know if anyone is able to tell me what this boat was originally if it's possible to tell from pics. There are holes where a back railing once was but no railing. Also, the original blue color interior can be seen where the old motor was mounted.
Thanks! Just put a new motor on today and finishing up the wiring tomorrow, can't wait to get it in the water.
http://imgur.com/a/TJvWz
Edited by Joe Kriz on 10/06/15 - 6:17 PM
Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/06/15 - 6:18 PM
#50
Bringing this up to the top again.
Please read the first page if you don't know what model you have and you want to find out.
There is NO reason anyone should not know what model they have after reading this thread.
None.
Also look through our Whaler Models and Specifications section to see if you can identify your model.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...allery.php
If you don't have a clue, then you probably have a "Custom" model.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 10/06/15 - 6:29 PM
Posted by hullinthewater on 10/26/15 - 10:51 AM
#51
Joe-
I recall you were maintaining an inventory of Year-Model 17' hull bow locker sizes.
I can't find that threadf to save my life- was I dreaming or does it exist?
BTW, my 1987 SuperSport [Custom] has a bow locker size of 21" & 34" on the parallel sides of the trapezoidal opening, with the perpendicular measure between them being 24".
Those are tape measure 'eyeball' dimensions, so +/- 1/8".
I'm thinking of modding my cover to a 2 part [left & right] so I wanted to check back on availablity/cost of the OEM F/glass before commiting to my plan.
Thanks,
Joe
Posted by hullinthewater on 10/26/15 - 10:59 AM
#52
BTW: My splashwell stencil is "3C8035".
Started it's life as a 1987 SuperSport first sold in So. Cal.
Posted by prettywork on 04/20/16 - 9:19 AM
#54
Question- I have what I think is a 1981 17' Sport. Has a bench seat that spans the entire boat. Has holes in the ceiling though for the Montauk Seat. It has no console. I would like to put in a Montauk-like console and the standard Montauk reversible pilot bench seat. Given that these hulls all seem to be the same, does anyone forsee any issues in this project?
Edited by prettywork on 04/20/16 - 9:27 AM
Posted by Joe Kriz on 04/20/16 - 11:18 AM
#55
Here is a Sport 17' model.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=46
There would be no problem adding a factory console and RPS from a Montauk as all the hulls during that era were the same.
See the Wood Locating Diagrams in our Download section.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 04/20/16 - 11:41 AM
Posted by prettywork on 04/21/16 - 5:32 AM
#56
Thanks Joe. That's what I thought. The boat was advertised as a Montauk. The console was gone when I bought it and since I had a friend look at it and send me pictures I assumed it was but after doing my research on this site, and studying the pictures a little more closely as well as the link you attached which I had already discovered I surmised that in fact it was a Sport 17. After reading some more of your comments on the threads that the main differences in the models were the interiors and that the hulls were the same it seemed to make sense that since I was basically going to be dealing with a blank canvas, I could "make" this a Montauk rather than a Sport as there is no console now and the bench seat needed to be replaced anyway. There are a number of manufacturers of consoles out there. Are there any benefits that I should be aware of by ordering a console directly from BW?
Posted by ollieamb on 03/15/17 - 2:46 PM
#57
HI Joe
Could you help me out identifying my whaler thats in need of restoration, im told its a montauk 17 1979.. but would like to know how many were built and what number this one is?
Stencil number is : 3B5065 it also has a very worn metal tag with what i can work out as 7760 79J
Look forward to hearing from you from the UK!
Oliver
Posted by Joe Kriz on 03/15/17 - 3:19 PM
#58
Hi Oliver,
I really can't tell you what model it is unless you post a photo.
Here are the Montauk models.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=14
And here are other Montauk HIN and Stencil numbers.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=17
From your number, it is a 1979 year model.
Your missing numbers are BWCC and then an "M" for Model Year Format.
So, your HIN would most likely be:
BWCC7760M79J
Your numbers come right after "wrangler" in the list above.
Posted by ollieamb on 03/15/17 - 3:39 PM
#59
Thanks for the quick reply!
Picture attached
Edited by ollieamb on 03/15/17 - 3:42 PM
Posted by PatSea on 04/02/17 - 7:43 AM
#61
New member here. I just purchased a 1972 13' Whaler. I'm trying to identify the model. I have read through all the model and spec information and none of it matches with my boat, so I take it from this discussion that mine would be called a Custom. The stencil on the transom splashwell is 2A9394. There is a metal HIN tag attached to the starboard transom but I believe it was assigned and attached by the Ohio Watercraft office when the last owner took possession. The HIN number on the tag is BWCA10941172. I've attached a photo. In the photo you will see taller rails on both sides. These were added by the initial owner and I have removed them since the photo was taken. Overall the boat is in good condition. The original owner had it for 42 years. He passed away three years ago and his widow gave the boat to her nephew who used it lightly, then I bought it a few weeks ago. I plan to use it for fishing in Ohio and Florida. I probably will restore the wood in the next few years and repair a rough patch in the bow area.
Edited by PatSea on 04/02/17 - 7:45 AM
Posted by PatSea on 04/03/17 - 4:31 PM
#63
Thanks Joe. I'm becoming a bigger Whaler fan each day as I read and learn more about them!
I double checked the stencil. It is clearly 2A9394.
As for the HIN number I will contact Boston Whaler when I get a chance. There is no embossed HIN number in the hull near the hand holds. The previous owner told me there was some confusion about the HIN when he went to get the Ohio registration, and they ended up making a metal tag with the HIN which is attached to the transom. I don't recall whether he got the correct number from BW or whether Ohio Watercraft assigned a number.
Posted by Joe Kriz on 04/03/17 - 5:02 PM
#64
Thanks PatSea.
The first HIN numbers were embossed on the outside of the transom above the hand grip.
It appears your hull never really had an HIN and was assigned one later in life which is basically irrelevant except for state registration use.
I have added your boat to this list with your Stencil number only as the first embossed HIN we have on record is Drbowers95 which has stencil 2A9869
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...cle_id=101
If anyone has an HIN on a 13' model before Drbowers95, please submit it here.
Posted by Lenzo37 on 06/24/17 - 3:52 AM
#65
I just purchased a 1967 16' hull with no interior. It sounds like the interior determined the model during this era. Is there a way to figure out what model my hull started as? HIN #36576. It is also a red dot hull, if that makes a difference. Thanks
Posted by ClevelandBill on 06/25/17 - 4:42 PM
#66
Joe: shouldn't we be using the "reverse" format that Whaler uses on the newer boats, i.e., "150 Super Sport" rather than "Super Sport 150"? Also, I know that in the 1980's they were like this, "Outrage 18" or "Montauk 17", but I think I remember a period between then and now where they might have been "Montauk 170"???
I know that putting the name or number first, consistently, helps organize our lists of models, of individual hulls, of owners info. We can sort easier that way ...
Posted by Joe Kriz on 06/25/17 - 5:44 PM
#67
Good thinking Bill.
I agree.
As you mention, there was a time when the catalogs showed the newer boat names different in the catalogs then the names on the boat. Montauk 170 or 170 Montauk. They showed it both ways.
I understand what you are saying and we have done this since 2002.
See the members personal pages.
Because of the 3 numbers first, these boats come first in all the categories.
http://www.whalercentral.com/viewpage...page_id=65
We also have shown the 3 digit name first in all the Boat model specs here:
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...owstart=60
Now, having said all that, Boston Whaler then confuses us with putting "Montauk 170" name on the side of these boats back in the early 2000's.
See the 2003 catalog on page 16 and we see "Montauk 170" on the side of the boat.
It appears they didn't even how they wanted to name it.
I think this changed after a certain year. About 2005 you can see the name on the side of the boat is now
"170 Montauk".
Good eye and thanks for the feedback and keep up the good work.
Seriously. Good job.
Some people don't understand what the name on the side of the boat (or console, etc.) stands for.
It is very common for new members to ignore the name on the boat and call it something it is not.
Many times they call a Montauk 17' a Montauk 170, also including many other models.
It seems to be just the way it is and has been since 2002 with the 3 digit name change.
Hopefully we can inform everyone to recognize the difference and go by the correct name.
Most people do know what the name on their vehicle stands for.
F-250 is what it this one is. (with or without the dash)
They don't say it is an F-25 or an F-2500, or a 250-F, or a 2500-F etc.
They absolutely know it is an
"F-250"
Posted by mtown on 11/07/17 - 4:24 AM
#68
Looking at a either 16'6" or 17' for sale. It has the stencil # 8A7428. I am not finding that any where in the lists. It also has the serial # on the stern but it has been painted over. It looks to me to be about mid 1970's.
Has white interior that appears original. I have not seen the title yet.
Even if I misread the 8 and it is really a 3, I am not finding that #.
Stencil is definitely Whaler as is the boat.
Any help is appreciated.
Posted by mtown on 11/07/17 - 12:39 PM
#70
Thanks Joe,
It is obviously a 3A7428. I used you link and there is a site member with 3A7427 but unfortunately has posted no photos. 1973 makes sense based on the looks. Quick question, did the bottom of the 1970s models start to get a bit more dead rise than the 1960s 16/17 footers?
It is "custom" for sure, no interior, road rash on gunnels. Good news is no bottom paint.It will be quite a project but I may buy it anyway.
Posted by craigbruce on 06/05/18 - 3:21 PM
#71
Hi Folks
First timer here, both on the forum and as a potential boat owner.
Im in the market for a starter boat to take out on the intracoastal waterway here in St Augustine, Florida, I would like to figure out all things boat related and really get a feel for things for a few years before i commit to a big boy boat.
A friend of a friend has a posting online for a 1964 Boston Whaler Classic 13ft, 2011 outboard engine in what appears to be great condition.
My question is, am i indeed looking at what is described and what are the major pitfalls i should be looking out for when i go to inspect the boat. It should be noted i'm not concerned with electronics as i'm more than competent at repairing and or upgrading these.
Im also a wear of the age of the boat and i'm expecting some maintenance along the way.
(removed dead link)
Thanks for your time.
Craig
Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/31/18 - 12:05 PM
Posted by EJO on 06/07/18 - 7:22 AM
#72
That is one custom 13 ft boat with center console.
I would be worried about the bubbles/rough looking starboard side as shown in the picture especially towards the chine. The boat has been painted inside and out so it is hard to evaluate condition.
Posted by craigbruce on 06/07/18 - 8:11 AM
#73
Thanks for the reply, Appreciated.
Posted by Outrageous_Whaler on 07/30/18 - 8:02 PM
#74
I purchased this boat used last year. By all account it is a Boston Whaler Outrage 17'. It says it on the boat with what appears to be old but original BW decals. The HIN starts with BWC and ends with A191 so it was made in January 1991 as a 1991 model... Am i right? It came with a 2 stroke Mercury 115hp. It's not the typical centre console whaler and I can't seem to track down pictures of similar boats. Mine has two seats on each side... I also can't find the capacity plate on it.
Reason I'm asking is because I plan on repowering the boat next season and I don't want to under power it. Kinda bugs me that I can't seem to find similar models anywhere.
Thanks
Posted by Riverlodge on 12/25/18 - 2:53 PM
#76
Hello, new member here. Trying to figure out my model, so hear goes..
Stencil is 5A3317
HIN is BWC1358BM79A
Looking at the layout, I'd take a shot that it's a 1980 Striper...or a custom?
Attached a few pic, appreciate your feedback!
Dennis
Posted by Riverlodge on 12/25/18 - 4:20 PM
#78
Let's see if the newbie can get the photos on...
https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=whalerB.jpg
Edited by Riverlodge on 12/25/18 - 4:21 PM
Posted by Riverlodge on 12/27/18 - 7:44 AM
#79
Can someone direct me to best way to post pics?
I sent pics and HIN to Whaler customer service and they said Chuck would
need to review when he gets back from vacation. They were very prompt.
DW
Posted by Joe Kriz on 12/27/18 - 1:15 PM
#80
Riverlodge,
If your 1979 Sport 15' model does not look like this, then you have a "Custom" model.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=40
(unless it might be a Striper model so look in the personal page section for that model)
The best way to post photos in the Discussion area is to add a link like you did above in post #78
The only problem is you have the dropbox set for private viewing instead of public.
Posted by transamman20 on 07/16/19 - 8:11 AM
#81
Hi, I recently traded a jon boat for this boston whaler. I think based on the texas parks and wildlife records it is an
1984 year model. What I am wondering is what the model of the boat is. Records do not list it and there are no identification tags anywhere except a replacement HIN# by the state. As you can see the HIN # the state put on is nothing like what BW uses. I think it is a 23' revenge cuddy. any help is greatly appreciated.
https://sites.google.com/view/randyss...stuff/home
(Please follow guideline #1 at the top of this page and use the full 4 digit year)
Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/16/19 - 10:44 AM
Posted by biggiefl on 07/16/19 - 8:15 AM
#82
Congratulations on your new to you Mako. Looks like a Mako but could be something else except for a Whaler...sorry.
Posted by transamman20 on 07/17/19 - 3:45 PM
#83
Thanks for the info. Being a newbie to this boat, i gotta ask, how can you tell its not a Boston whaler? What characteristics tell you its not. Still trying to figure out what this boat is.
Posted by Weatherly on 07/18/19 - 6:24 AM
#84
One of the best and most reliable ways to find out if your vessel is in fact a Boston Whaler is to launch it into the water with the plugs pulled. If it sinks, it is not a Boston Whaler.
I concur in biggiefl's assessment; your boat is not a Boston Whaler. People attach the trademark decal to the hull and can get an extra $1K from a buyer. This scenario happens all too often with unscrupulous boat sellers misrepresenting the boat as a Boston Whaler. We could have helped you before the purchase, not after.
I recommend you follow up with an indepth evaluation of your probable Mako 22.8 Walkaround boat at
www.classicmako.com
Posted by biggiefl on 07/18/19 - 11:24 AM
#85
I have been around boats all my life. Looks like an 80's Mako but again people splash hulls and put a different interior in them and believe it or not it is legal. This could be just about any make of boat. You have no idea how many fake classic Donzis are made. How do I know it is NOT a Whaler is easy, look at my signature. I grew up in a Whaler when I was 3 weeks old in 1969 and have followed them like religion since. She looks NOTHING like a Whaler.
Posted by transamman20 on 07/23/19 - 8:52 PM
#86
Thanks for the info guys. That's more what I was looking for. Not so much worried if it is a whaler or not, but just trying to figure out what it was or might be. As you stated though no telling being this old and having no identification plate on it. Either way I'm not out anything except an unused Jon boat I traded for it. Again thanks for the info. Much appreciated!
Posted by Jeff Zaiham on 09/07/19 - 1:17 PM
#87
Hi there people. I'm Jeff from Malaysia. Recently I saw an add in a local buy and sell site about a boston whaler 18' boat.. been doing research on it and can't seem to find any Whalers that looks like it but im quite certain its a Whaler but of military pedigree. Probably the guy bought it at an auction or something, beets me..
I'm really interested to get it to be a build project as I can't afford a new boat and the newer local hulls here in Malaysia, although affordable does not have the pedigree nor the "unsinkable" moniker rhat goes with a whaler. Can someone help to identify the model based on pics? and how do I share pictures in here?...
I'm kinda new to boating but would like to get this..
Posted by Jeff Zaiham on 09/19/19 - 5:57 AM
#89
Wow..seems that everyne is too busy to assist me on this.. help please.. Thanks
Posted by reelescape1 on 09/19/19 - 7:15 AM
#90
Looks like it could be an 18' Outrage but pics aren't clear enough.
Posted by Jeff Zaiham on 09/30/19 - 4:47 AM
#91
Thanks Reelscape1. appreciate it
Posted by MG56 on 09/30/19 - 7:46 AM
#92
It doesn't look like any Boston Whaler I know of.
Posted by gbrambati on 04/20/20 - 2:26 AM
#93
Goodmorning everyone! I'm Gianluca from Italy and I'm passionate about Boston Whaler. Right now offered me a 16 or 17 but I can't understand the model (Nauset? Sakonnet?) The serial stenciled number is 3A2258. How can understand when built? Thank's
Posted by gbrambati on 04/20/20 - 8:12 AM
#95
Thank's Phil !
Posted by Vince on 05/18/20 - 2:50 PM
#96
Thanks for this Thread - I have now learned that instead of a 1968 Sakonnet 16 I have either a 1968 Custom 16 or a Eastport 16 with an optional RPS. I am not sure if the Eastport could have an RPS. Now I need to determine what to call it.
Posted by Vince on 05/18/20 - 4:21 PM
#98
As the RPS was an option I will say I have an Eastport with optional RPS. Either way I like it.
Posted by robsonresearch on 07/09/20 - 10:44 AM
#99
Just beginning to give some TLC to my father-in-law's Whaler. His title and registration list it as a 1964 Currituck but by what I've learned from this site it is most likely an Eastport. Definitely a 16', smirkless bow, center console with the front facing bench, basic bench pilot seat and just the two bench boards of the stern seating. It is a great boat on the water and deserves to get some serious love this winter once we pull it out of the water. Many many thanks to the great information and resources of this site!
Posted by Joe Kriz on 07/09/20 - 2:43 PM
#100
robsonresearch wrote:
Just beginning to give some TLC to my father-in-law's Whaler. His title and registration list it as a 1964 Currituck but by what I've learned from this site it is most likely an Eastport. Definitely a 16', smirkless bow, center console with the front facing bench, basic bench pilot seat and just the two bench boards of the stern seating. It is a great boat on the water and deserves to get some serious love this winter once we pull it out of the water. Many many thanks to the great information and resources of this site!
Post a link to a photo of your Whaler so we can see what you are referring to.
Posted by robsonresearch on 07/12/20 - 9:26 AM
#101
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCjHGjrDBIp/?igshid=dd4522emtbbk
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCjHH95jb-3/?igshid=qn6yb5tzro1p
Couple of pics
Edited by robsonresearch on 07/12/20 - 9:28 AM
Posted by robsonresearch on 07/12/20 - 9:29 AM
#102
Interior
Posted by robsonresearch on 07/14/20 - 4:39 PM
#104
Thanks.
I’ve thoroughly checked the splashwell & did not see anything. In the bottom of the bow locker is “30737”.
The two rear boards are suspicious in that they appear to be same vintage as rest of wood work & have holes drilled in two locations along length as if they were attached to something & notches in each end.
Posted by biggiefl on 07/14/20 - 4:58 PM
#105
Custom stern seat, enjoy or remove/modify.
Posted by Joe Kriz on 07/14/20 - 5:48 PM
#106
30737 would make it a 1962 16' model.
https://www.whalercentral.com/viewpag...age_id=179
Have you looked at the Eastport drawing I showed you above?
The seat has 3 pieces of wood and the back has 1 piece so what you have is not original to your boat.
You apparently have a 1962 Nauset 16'
I can add you to this list if you are interested.
https://www.whalercentral.com/article...cle_id=102
The only way you can verify what my research tells us, is call Boston Whaler and give them your stencil number and they most likely will be able to tell you what the model it was when it was shipped from the factory and the date. They obviously cannot tell us what model it is now because too many years and too many people change the original interior layout.
Otherwise, I stand by my factual research.
1962 Nauset 16'
Thanks for letting us know the Stencil number and why it was in the Bow Locker according to the link I gave you above.
Enjoy that well preserved Whaler.
Posted by robsonresearch on 07/14/20 - 6:02 PM
#107
Yeah it is definitely not a 1964 Currituck. And agree, most likely a Nauset. I posted the pic of the boards in case some one had seen similar before. There was definitely some intent there as they aren’t just boards cut to the proper length.
Our plans are to enjoy it this season & then restore & probably make it a modified Sakonnet. Stern seats with a back would be nice, as would the RPS.
I’ll contact BW tomorrow & see what info they have on the stencil number.
Posted by Sonic2904 on 11/10/20 - 5:49 AM
#109
Hello all,
my name is Michael, 33 years old and from Germany. I own a Boston Whaler (since 2016) which i cant identify properly.
There is no information/ Modell plate. It was already modified when i bought it and i also restored the whole boat and modified it as well a bit.
It is 13 foot long and has no smirk. Enclosed you can find a picture how it looks right now.
I can also post more pictures from details if necessary. Would be great if someone has an idea what kind of 13 Modell it is and maybe in which year it was build.
Best Michael
Posted by Phil T on 11/10/20 - 6:28 AM
#110
Welcome to WhalerCentral, Michael
The model name is a combination of the hull and interior features. Many models use the same hull but have a different interior layout.
If the interior has been altered by an owner, it is given the name "custom".
There are many personal features so your model is: 13' Custom.
You can see photos of other 13' owners here:
https://www.whalercentral.com/viewpag...page_id=65
Posted by Joe Kriz on 11/10/20 - 7:14 PM
#111
Sonic2904,
That does not appear to be a Whaler hull.
A knockoff?
Edited by Joe Kriz on 11/10/20 - 7:39 PM
Posted by Emanueles on 11/28/20 - 8:12 AM
#112
Hello to everybody in WhalerCentral, I'm Emanuele a Boston Whaler owner from Sicily. Thanks to my father's love for Boston Whaler boats and for fishing we own a 2007 305 Conquest and a 1983 15 Sport/Striper. Probably we'll buy a 25 Outrage soon, because we think it could be a perfect boat for our necessities. Do you have any hint for 25 models ? What hull year could be better to buy and what about a more recent 25 Guardian?
For the 1984 15" , we would like to understand what model could be exactly. We bought in 1992 and it was like abbandoned for many years, so we think it hasn't been modified. Looks like a Sport with a fiberglass console on the side like in a Striper. I already posted a photo. Can you help me?
Posted by Joe Kriz on 11/28/20 - 1:54 PM
#113
Hi Emanueles, I don't see a photo otherwise we might be able to identify it for you.
Edit:
I now see the photo you submitted below.
Looks like a Sport with a Striper console just like you figured.
I guess it would be considered a "Custom" model now.
I have added you to this list.
https://www.whalercentral.com/article...cle_id=109
Looks nice. Enjoy.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 11/28/20 - 3:20 PM
Posted by Emanueles on 11/28/20 - 5:52 PM
#114
Thank you Joe! I will post other pics of the boat. Everything looks to be original from the factory, we didn't add anything else, I wonder if the fiberglass console could be an optional of the sport model.
Edited by Emanueles on 11/28/20 - 11:33 PM
Posted by Emanueles on 11/30/20 - 2:52 AM
#116
Thanks
Posted by Emanueles on 12/21/20 - 10:46 PM
#117
Found the Stencil number on the Outrage 25 I just bought it is placed on the starboard rope well and starts with F4.... What does it mean ?
Posted by JBfish on 01/05/21 - 5:06 PM
#118
Following the thread on this I have a 1974 Outrage 21' Custom as it came with a factory cabin. I've been searching for info on similar boats but couldn't find anything quite like what I have. It's a great design in my opinion as I do mostly Nor Cal ocean fishing and it's a very stable fishing platform.
Posted by Joe Kriz on 01/05/21 - 6:04 PM
#119
I am just curious as why you think it came from the factory this way.
Are you the original owner?
Any original documentation?
Looks interesting for sure.
Posted by JBfish on 01/11/21 - 8:32 PM
#120
No documentations but here’s a couple photos. The plastic insert within the cabin seems to be professional / factory designed. It’s indeed an interesting Whaler.
Posted by JBfish on 01/11/21 - 8:33 PM
#121
Another photo of inside the cabin.
Posted by Phil T on 01/12/21 - 7:02 AM
#122
That is one of two prototype Outrage 21.
It is the formerly known "Strike 3" out of Bodega Bay and was owned by three guys, the late Tony Wilde, Matt P and Warren T.
That is truly one of a kind.
Posted by robsonresearch on 03/09/21 - 5:59 AM
#123
robsonresearch wrote:
Yeah it is definitely not a 1964 Currituck. And agree, most likely a Nauset. I posted the pic of the boards in case some one had seen similar before. There was definitely some intent there as they aren’t just boards cut to the proper length.
Our plans are to enjoy it this season & then restore & probably make it a modified Sakonnet. Stern seats with a back would be nice, as would the RPS.
I’ll contact BW tomorrow & see what info they have on the stencil number.
Well I finally received a response from BW archives and as a surprise, it turns out their records show it as a 1962 Currituck! So obviously the interior was replaced at some time. Sadly my father-in-law passed last week from Covid so we are earnest in our efforts to get this boat in great shape and keep it.
Posted by thomaskmetz on 03/29/21 - 4:29 AM
#124
SO I bought a nice little 13 foot "Classic." There is no HIN number on the boat. Just "23155" stamped onto it. Looking to try and get some proper ID and age of the boat.
Posted by IamSparticus on 08/01/21 - 10:39 AM
#127
Stencil #31525 found in forward locker
1963 Nauset 16'
Posted by Phil T on 08/01/21 - 11:46 AM
#128
While it may have been a Nauset when it left the factory, without the OEM interior, it is referred to as a 16' Custom.
Posted by IamSparticus on 08/01/21 - 12:59 PM
#129
Gotcha, my uncle said it had that console when he got it
Thanks for the info.
Posted by Pathfinder14 on 08/19/21 - 4:40 AM
#130
I recently bought a 1965 Whaler that spent its life on Lake Winnipesaukee never having had bottom paint. Its stencil number is very clear. 32896. It seems that within a close group of stencil numbers they made different models. Were they making boats to order?
Edited by Pathfinder14 on 08/22/21 - 6:53 PM
Posted by Tboyc7 on 10/31/21 - 1:09 PM
#131
I just picked up a project boat today. Based on the info I am reading on this site, based on the bow locker it is a 16 foot smirkless bow. I am hoping to figure out the year and model. There is a 5 digit number in the transom, however, I cannot figure out how to use this information. I believe the number is 38027 or 38827. Any information would be beyond helpful.
Thanks!!!
Tom
Posted by Tboyc7 on 11/01/21 - 9:36 AM
#133
Thanks you!!! I have a feeling it is some sort of custom.
Posted by Tboyc7 on 11/13/21 - 11:05 AM
#134
Hi
Again thank you for your response. I have been trying to attach photos, however, the files are too big. I will continue to try. I have another question...I have 2 thru hulls in the middle of the hull. I am not sure if this was factory or an add on. I am thinking one was for a live well and not sure about the other. I am restoring this boat, and trying to learn more about the boat to make the job easier.
Tom
Posted by BWapi on 12/22/21 - 9:10 PM
#135
Hi,
I just purchased a 11ft BW. but the HIN has been removed so I have no idea what model 11t i have or the year. I don't know if somebody here could help me identify it. And also what is the function of the plastic covered hole. when I open I only see foam and or a hole in the foam
Edited by BWapi on 12/22/21 - 9:15 PM
Posted by williamlindow on 07/29/22 - 8:20 AM
#136
This is my father's boat. I do not have access to the numbers as of yet. Any guesses Identifying possible year and
model would be very helpful. It was purchased by my father 10 years ago from the original owner and stored indoors.
It looks like a 1980's Striper that has be customized and the outboard looks like it from the late 1970's. Please help.
Thank you
UDPATE:
1978 Striper 15'
Hull Stencil 5A 24 32
BWC3434AM78C
1978 Johnson 55HP 55EL78S
I attached some new photos in my Boat INFO. Will get a thorough inspection of the engine and mechanicals
as well as spark plugs, oil and fresh fuel. Will need to look for bad wires in the engine for mice had camped out there at one time.
Edited by williamlindow on 05/07/23 - 10:04 AM
Posted by williamlindow on 05/07/23 - 12:44 PM
#137
Striper
Posted by leftyjeb on 08/07/23 - 5:54 AM
#138
Hi. First post!
I'd love to know any/all info about this boat. The owner is calling it a 1984 Revenge 22, but note the curved windshield. I think it's a 1984 Outrage Cuddy 22. I did a search here for that model, but it didn't yield anything. I'd really like to hear any informed opinions about this rig.
Thanks,
Jeb
Posted by Joe Kriz on 08/07/23 - 12:44 PM
#139
Jeb,
You are half correct with the Cuddy but not the Outrage.
It is a
Revenge Cuddy with the curved windshield.
That would be 1983-1984 only.
See our information here and the description:
https://www.whalercentral.com/userpho...lbum_id=57
Edited by Joe Kriz on 08/07/23 - 12:51 PM
Posted by leftyjeb on 08/07/23 - 1:46 PM
#140
Joe Kriz wrote:
Jeb,
You are half correct with the Cuddy but not the Outrage.
It is a
Revenge Cuddy with the curved windshield.
That would be 1983-1984 only.
See our information here and the description:
https://www.whalercentral.com/userpho...lbum_id=57
Thanks so much. I hope to be the next owner of this classic. I'll check in once it happens.