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| drh146 |
Posted on 07/31/09 - 11:20 AM
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Im about to purchase a 1990 17 montauk with a 90hp evinrude vro. Im very excited because this is my first boat, and i think a whaler is a great one to start with. Im also very nervous. What are the best operating/maintenance procedures for this boat that some of you have found?
The oil pump is not by passed and im just wondering about starting. I know i should squeeze the fuel ball to prime the system, but do i need to do anything for the oil to get it goin?
Any info anyone can give me on this motor / boat, Id be delighted with as im trying to learn everything i can to make the most of this experience.
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Dave
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| ScooterCO |
Posted on 07/31/09 - 12:03 PM
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Deep breaths....... It will be ok. I know it all seems overwhelming.
Best advice is to take your time as to minimize stress.
Go to the dock early when you won't feel rushed to unload and then during the course of the day, just review as much as possible.
Again, pick a slack time to load.
A few trips and you will look like a pro!
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| joninnj |
Posted on 07/31/09 - 1:10 PM
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Dave,
Both of your choices for boat and engine are very solid performers. I would suggest that for your first few times out you go with an experienced boater. Silly things like closed vent on a gas tank can happen even to experiened boater and will would ruin your day.
Incidences with trailer can be dangerous like letting it slide off the with the winch attached and unlocked spinning at hundreds of RPMs per minute... This can break a hand or arm... Many other little things to be aware of.
Best to be careful and safe. May want to take a boaters course as well
Good Luck...:-)
Jon in NJ
Many other boats and outboards in my boating history
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| ugageo |
Posted on 07/31/09 - 1:24 PM
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Dave
Congradulations! Sounds like you are ready to pull the trigger. Have a trusted mechanic look at it if you have not done so. Inquire when the wheel bearings were last packed. If it has been a while, take care of it right away. Easy prevention of a dangerous situation or having your new baby stranded.
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| Guts |
Posted on 07/31/09 - 1:49 PM
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Dave; all very good suggestions so far. I suggest you have a piece of paper and a pencil/pen with you for the first half dozen times you take her out. Wright down the things to do (like put the drain plug in) Things you forgot to bring, or would be nice to have on the next outing. I have one made up in word that I can print out anytime. Look at it before you leave the house or dock. This list has helped me to have a trouble free trips and safe ones also. Next make TWO Sets of Keys for the boat in case you lose a set you will have a spare set. Boating safety classes are free here in California and in many states also, they may even lower your boat insurance. State Farm dose this for what its worth. I have a Montauk17... they are a fun boat and easy to handle.
Congratulations be safe and have fun !!!
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| davis422 |
Posted on 07/31/09 - 5:10 PM
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All great advice. I to am new to BW's this site has been a big help. My advice to add is if you are going where there is a tide go at slack tide. I made the mistake at going on the outgoing tide and it was a bad day, when putting it in the water the boat was all over the place, putting it back on the trailer was even worse. I do live in Maine and we have big tides here but lookout. Now I am comfortable at any time.
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| MW |
Posted on 08/01/09 - 12:44 AM
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You might want to go to the marine store and let the family pick out a "PFD" that they like, and will WEAR. I have only 1 rule on my boat, you MUST wear a "PFD". If somebody refuses, they can watch the fun from shore, or you can give the standard "Captain's" answer... "When this ship becomes a Democracy, you'll be the first to know" !
Good Luck Captain !
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| Maineboatman |
Posted on 08/01/09 - 11:34 AM
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That boat sounds like a dream, good deal & welcome to the boating poor! Will work for epoxy.
Years ago, I had a 13' with a 10hp; safe for a kid. As a teenager, I bought a new Evinrude 33hp, the dealer installed it. It was where we had purchased the boat in 1965 so he presumed I knew what I was doing. I went by myself to go out cruising the Ft. Laud., FL canals. I nearly lost control leaving the marina when I first opened the throttle; I am zigzagging in the berth area of Pier 66. I looked like an idiot to everyone, but I knew just how close that was to hitting pilings & I was shaken by the fast quick response of the 33hp. I was lucky. FUBAR.
Do you have an experienced boat operator to take you out, show you, & let you practice safely? The seller may go with you or arrange a teacher. There is too much to learn before each trip will be safe for your passengers & you. Be in contact & let this forum know how things are going, before you solo!
I would stay in as protected areas of the river as possible, learn how to toss a PFD boat cushion overboard, & safely return to pick up your “man overboard!” cushion. Turn off your engine in real life when picking up swimmers, skiers, snorkelers, pets & such.
Do not EVER yell at someone assisting you at the most stressful of places; the launching ramp. Marriages, sibling relationships, mere lifelong friendships all will evaporate under your tutelage as you launch & take it out. Backing a trailer is still a pain for me sometimes & when I get spooked it is harder to do it right even 40 years later! Patience with all your helpers.
Have proper lines & a NOT Nylon towing rope of at least 20ft; you will tow or get towed sooner or later, most likely several times. Boaters help the stranded. Nylon has an elastic effect that can literally kill or maim when stretched to breaking (like towing).
Good luck & if you want opinions’ here we are! Maybe a boater in your neighborhood of New Bern will read this & offer help.
Good luck!
Maineboatman
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| jaxmyth |
Posted on 08/01/09 - 2:18 PM
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all of those above are good .. one thing though. if you do become dead in the water for some reason drop the anchor before you become grounded or drift into something dangerous. things happen, and other boaters will help you out. don't be too full of pride to ask someone to back your rig for you if youre not very experienced. most boaters would be glad to speed up the process. i just bought an 88 17 montauk a few months ago and i'm still getting the bugs out. but i can tell you this. my dad has a 17 key west. and there is no comparison to the ride and safety factor . enjoy .
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| modenacart |
Posted on 08/02/09 - 9:17 AM
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Be familiar with the starting procedures for your engine. I ended up going back home after I couldn't get the engine to start the first time I went out and it turned out I wasn't pushing the key in to prime the cylinders.
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| drh146 |
Posted on 08/03/09 - 4:23 AM
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Thank you all! this is all very helpful. All these things are the things that i have been mulling over for the last week. I will take all these suggestions to the max and follow each one to a Tee.
I have one more week to go at least before i get her. What are some of the things i should go out and get that are gauranteed-need that i can get ahead of time? some of the things are coming with the boat, but id like to start pulling a list together so anything you can suggest is great! (from above i already have tow rope, throw ring, pfds, etc)
I am going to buy engine muffs this week for sure. Are there certain ones that are better than others, or are they all pretty much the same (walmart vs. west marine)
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| MW |
Posted on 08/03/09 - 5:06 AM
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Muff's are cheap, you'll go through many pairs dropping them in the water if you dock. Don't forget that you are in a "Whaler", it's the BEST boat in it's class. You will eventually see something "Ugly" happen out on the water. It is NOT uncommon for people to look for the nearest "Whaler" for help. Without putting yourself in "Danger", you should always give assistance, this is where a fixed mount "VHF" marine radio comes in handy to call "Marine Police". Don't depend on the cell phone, know how to use the radio (Make sure everyone else on board does too in case you go "IN"). Take a "Basic" boater's course (contact USCG) it's only a few hours long, and you'll get certified (20% off your boat ins.). You may also want to take advantage of the "FREE" USCG "SAFETY CHECK" (if you can't get to them, they'll come to you), they'll inspect the boat to make sure all safety system's are there and working, NO TICKET'S or ANY info. on your boat are EVER given out, just nice folk's who want you to remain "SAFE" out on the water. You'll recieve a decal on the hull that tell's of the inspection, this is no guarantee that you won't be "Stopped" but, it broadcast's to marine enforcement that this hull was "Voluntarily" inspected, and "Passed" a USCG safety inspection.
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| drh146 |
Posted on 08/03/09 - 10:20 AM
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great tip MW - heard of them but didnt realize you got a display decal to show it
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