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80's Outrage bow locker handle pull location?
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 06/29/09 - 3:52 PM
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As most of you know we here at WhalerCentral try and find out when and what parts have been changed through the years. We also try and determine when part locations have been changed.
Lately I have been looking at photos of 80's era Outrages and see that the placement of the bow locker handle pulls are in different places.
My 1985 Outrage 18' has the handle pull on the rear of the bow locker.
In a photo of a 1984 Outrage 18', the handle pull was on the front of the bow locker.
Not sure exactly what year this changed so let's try and narrow it down.
So, I started this thread and wrote an article to determine what the other members here have on there 80's era Outrages. I will continue to add to the article when more information is submitted.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=95
Please let us know where you bow locker handle pull is located. Give us the year and size of your Outrage. If you wish to submit a photo, please use the submit photo link on the left sidebar and we may use that photo in the article.
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| Tom W Clark |
Posted on 06/29/09 - 4:01 PM
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My 1983 Outrage 18 had the handle at the bow and it did not have hinges from the factory. I added them myself in 1989.
I think the original design intended the bow locker to be lifted at the bow to pay out the anchor and rode. I reality that was a poor design as it is much easier and useful to have the hatch hinged to so the entire thing swings out of the way and stays there without the need for an arm to hold it open.
Being hinged, it also does not fly around when going over big waves.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 06/29/09 - 4:20 PM
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Thanks Tom.
My 1985 Outrage did not have hinges either so I added them.
Apparently the hinges were standard starting in late 1988 models.
Here is my earlier article on bow locker hinges.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=76
So far we have:
Front handle pull:
1979 Outrage 22' (rbritdu)
1982 Newport 18' (Eri)
1982 Outrage 22' (Jeff)
1983 Outrage 18' (Tom W Clark)
1983 Outrage 18' (In2Deep)
1983 Outrage 18' (firstoffshore)
1984 Outrage 18' (eto04)
Rear handle pull:
1985 Outrage 18' (GeorgiaWhaler)
1985 Outrage 18' (Joe Kriz)
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| firstoffshore |
Posted on 06/29/09 - 4:34 PM
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Handle at front (bow side) of locker.
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| Eri |
Posted on 06/29/09 - 8:16 PM
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Handle front (bow side) no hinges. Added them. 82 Newport 18
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| GeorgiaWhaler |
Posted on 06/30/09 - 6:24 AM
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Handle is in the rear on my 84 Outrage 18.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 06/30/09 - 11:24 AM
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So far it looks like the change might have been sometime during the making of the 1984 year model.
Some 1984 models have the handle pull in the front and another has the handle pull in the rear.
We probably need to start looking at the HIN numbers to narrow it down even further.
According to the 18' Hull Owners list below, we can see that the Deck Plates were changed from PYHI to Beckson during the 1984 year model.
Maybe we just found another slight change during this same time frame for the bow locker handle pull location.
Here is the 18' Hull Owners list:
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=21
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| rbritdu |
Posted on 06/30/09 - 4:19 PM
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22 Outrage 1979 handle on bow side hinges on the todo list .
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| Jeff |
Posted on 06/30/09 - 8:42 PM
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I have a set of deck hatches off an 1982 22 Outrage with the latch at the bow. My 1985 had the latch toward the console.
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| In2Deep |
Posted on 07/01/09 - 3:08 AM
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My 83 Outrage has the handle towards the bow,I also addaed a pair of perko hinges.It makes more sense to have the handle placed towards the stern,ergonomically and it would provide better leverage when opening the locker.I thought mine was placed towards the bow because at one time there was a chair mounted on the locker door because it had an aluminum plate mounted to the underneath of the locker door?
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 07/01/09 - 2:52 PM
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OK.
It looks like the change was sometime in 1984...
Front handle pull:
1979 Outrage 22' (rbritdu)
1982 Newport 18' (Eri)
1982 Outrage 22' (Jeff)
1983 Outrage 18' (Tom W Clark)
1983 Outrage 18' (In2Deep)
1983 Outrage 18' (firstoffshore)
1984 Outrage 18' (eto04)
Rear handle pull:
1985 Outrage 18' (GeorgiaWhaler)
1985 Outrage 18' (HarleyFXDL)
1985 Outrage 18' (Joe Kriz)
So, let's hear from 1984 Outrage owners only along with their HIN number of their hull so we can get a little closer on what month this changed occurred...
If you aren't already on these lists, submit your info so we can add you along with the handle pull information.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...p?cat_id=7
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| HarleyFXDL |
Posted on 07/01/09 - 5:56 PM
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1985 Outrage 18', my handle is in the rear, no factory hinges. I added hinges on the starboard side. I have the Beckson plates. HIN# BWC6501BK485. Stencil# A51665.
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| GeorgiaWhaler |
Posted on 07/03/09 - 6:01 AM
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OK, Joe. After reading your Hull Identification Number article I'm wondering if I refer to my boat as the right thing. Its always been a 1984 to me but looking at your article I see that its a 1985 model built in August of 1984. Would you call that an '85 or an '84. Either way, the handle is in the back and I have hinges on the port side I assume added by a previous owner.
Stencil - a51538
HIN - bwc6304bh485
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 07/07/09 - 1:01 PM
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Georgia Whaler,
Yes, you have a 1985 year model that was manufactured in 1984.
Just like the automobile industry, new models are sold a few months before the start of the new year.
Harley, I have added you also to the Owners List.
Thanks.
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| Blackduck |
Posted on 07/07/09 - 1:46 PM
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1987 18', handle in rear, no hinges.
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| kamie |
Posted on 07/07/09 - 5:12 PM
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My hull has the handle in the rear toward the console. I am guessing this means that the anchor locker is considered part of the bare hull and was switched in 1987. No hinges, I added them last year.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 07/07/09 - 5:27 PM
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So far, all 1984 models have the bow locker handle pulls in the front.
We need to hear from Chris and his HIN number. See these comments.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=95
And so far all 1985 models have the bow locker handle pulls in the rear.
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| ssmith2288 |
Posted on 07/08/09 - 6:13 AM
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Handle is on rear and hinges are on the front. I'm moving the hinges to the side soon.
1984 Outrage 18 HIN# WC7331M84J
Stencil A51404
1984 150 Evinrude
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 07/08/09 - 12:42 PM
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ssmith,
Thanks for the input.
Someone must have added the locker hinges but they were not factory installed until mid 1988.
You seem to be missing some letters in your HIN number though.
The first letter should be a B for Boston....
And you are missing an A between the number 1 an the M.
So, your HIN number should be this:
BWC7331AM84J
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| chris55386 |
Posted on 07/08/09 - 1:49 PM
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Hi I will post the serial numbers i have here and I will get the stenciled numbers to you after this weekend.
BWC7415AM84L
Chris
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