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1976 19 Outrage- repowering ? 115 or 150 hp? help!
Tony D RI
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Posted on 07/25/16 - 6:06 AM
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My 2003 Suzuki 140 hp is shot and I need to repower my 1976 BW Outrage 19. Will it take/run efficiently a Yamaha 150 hp? or is the 115 better? I spoke to Whaler's customer service today who did not recommend any motor over 500 libs and the dry weight on the Yamaha is 478 lbs. Thanks. I want to get this done asap to enjoy the rest of the summer here in New England.


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A previous thread discussed repowering a 20' outrage a few weeks back. See if you can find it. I have a Mercury 150 four stroke that I have on my 20' outrage and love it. Had it done in Falmouth. They did a great job. Love the engine. Well under 500 lbs.

Stephen


1989 20' Outrage, 2013 Mercury 150hp Four Stroke
 
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Posted on 07/25/16 - 6:36 AM
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A 115 HP engine for a 19 Outrage seems low to me. A 150, otoh, sounds about right.


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Thanks for the quick replies, read the 20' Outrage repower thread. Also, boat is at mechanic who is a Honda dealer and who is pushing me to go with a Honda 135 hp. I am leaning towards a Yamaha. Any suggestions?

 
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Why not another Suzuki 140? Seems like the perfect choice.


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Choose your new engine from the best dealer, or the one you have a strong relationship with. Brand isnt going to matter as they're all very good these days and at the 150hp level, all will have plenty of power.

 
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Tony D RI wrote:
Thanks for the quick replies, read the 20' Outrage repower thread. Also, boat is at mechanic who is a Honda dealer and who is pushing me to go with a Honda 135 hp. I am leaning towards a Yamaha. Any suggestions?


The Honda 135 is a heavy engine for its output. If you go with Honda, the 150 HP version weighs the same and woudl make more sense in my opinion. The Mercury 150 Fourstroke is lighter and more powerful, though.

On the other hand, if you want to try a 115, the Mercury 115 Fourstroke is a 2.1L engine that weighs more than 100 lbs less than that Honda 135. It's a very powerful 115, has a great reputation, and would save you a fair bit of money too. The top-end Pro/XS version of that engine is probably worth the extra couple hundred dollars.

 
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Blackduck wrote:
Why not another Suzuki 140? Seems like the perfect choice.



Not enough local mechanics to work on it and some won't even work on it. So that is why I am leaning towards the Yamaha or Honda. Don't want a Merc

 
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Tony So you answered your own question.
Pick a Yamaha engine less than 500 lbs and you will be happy.


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I had a 1976 Outrage 19 and had put 3 different new engines on it.
mid 1980's Mercury 115 tower of power , no power trim. 38 mph
1990? Mercury 175 black max 50 mph
1993? Yamaha 115 40 mph
The boat always had a kicker motor too. I thought the 115 Yamaha was fast enough for me, the 175 Mercury was scary fast.

 
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Tony -

Please do NOT post the same question in more than 1 forum.

Here is my post for what it's worth.

"Tony -

In the Reference section under Articles is a Engine guide showing choices and weights.

http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...ticle_id=6

Every manufacturer make decent, reliable and efficient engines so the real factors for a repower choice are:

Horsepower
Price
Features
Service
Weight

If you often run heavy, tow a skier or tube or want high speed you should lean toward a 135 or 150 hp.

If you run light with only a few occasions of heavy, consider a 115 hp.

If running in the ocean, I lean toward maximum horsepower for the times running against the large swells/waves.

Note- You will be very hard pressed to get a dealer to do a re-power in the high season. Most are too busy with emergency repairs.

Everyone needs to remember there is a big difference between the 1970's Outrage 19 and the 1986-1989 Outrage 20. The Outrage 20 has a deep V and is ~400 lbs heavier.

 
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yes, sorry. I realized I should have posted it under Motors instead of the Boats heading as it was a repowering question/issue.

 
Tony D RI
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Thanks everyone for your very helpful comments and information. I think I'm leaning towards the 150 . The local RI Yamaha dealer said he will get the motor on this week if I decided on a Yamaha as they have it in stock and will squeeze us in.

 
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