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To Save A Revenge 19 or Not?
NB Whaler	#1  Posted on 06/25/15 - 9:54 AM
Member Posts: 5 Comments: 0 Joined: 06/18/15	Hello all, new to the form but not Whalers. I currently have a late 70s 13 w/ yammi 30 4 stroke, but am looking for something to safely cross buzzards bay, Padanaram to Cuttyhunk. There is a 1974 19ft revenge available locally that needs some work, $1200 w/ good trailer. Has original 135 Johnson that runs poorly, crazing/cracks in the gelcoat exterior and worst of all, the transom has some splits across the top to the left and right of the engine. This leads me to believe that it is rotten. Also the fuel tank was removed and never replaced. Po said foam inside looked new. Boat has been trailed so it shouldn't be too wet inside. I have accepted my 13 is overweight especially with the 4 Stroke, as it sits in the water all summer. Overall the hull looked and felt very solid. Floor was solid, no soft spots, transom didn't budge when I shook/ jumped up and down and pulled up on the engine. Questions For 1200, is this a good deal or should I run for the hills? I built up the transom on my 13 but have never replaced an entire transom, is this a nightmare on this boat? Goal would be to eventually replace 135hp with a newer 150 2 stroke. Eventually it would be nice to fix some areas of the gelcoat, possible w/o a total repaint? I am not looking for a show boat, but something to toss around in Buzzards Bay. I can deal with the bumpy ride, is the 19 A big step over a 13? Any other comments / suggestions would be much appreciated. Edited by Joe Kriz on 06/25/15 - 4:16 PM
gchuba	#2  Posted on 06/25/15 - 4:08 PM
Member Posts: 1675 Comments: 0 Joined: 03/31/13	To me one of the most beautiful boats is the banana hulled Revenge. I went with the smirked hull (1979) Revenge because of usable cuddy space. The earlier Revenge was storage underneath in the cabin. That being said.....I see a lot more of the 19' pre-1979 Revenges available than the 21' series. 21' and a definite go for it. Big step over the 13' but post 1979 hulls more comfortable ride. Others more knowledgeable of transom issue but from reading....might not need total replacement. Fuel tank pricey. Could always rig above deck fuel tank while working on it before dropping larger $ for new tank.To me....feel out how firm the cost....do not be insulting......may turn out to be a nice elbow grease project. Check the through drains. If overwhelmed after studying and starting project I could see flipping it for cost out of pocket. Not unreasonable to my eyes but....beauty in the eye of the beholder. Boy...I love the lines of that hull. Garris
Berger	#3  Posted on 06/25/15 - 5:29 PM
Member Posts: 61 Comments: 1 Joined: 02/20/15	Hey NB WHALER I lived on Cuttyhunk for 8 years and will tell you that a 19' revenge would be a huge step up from a 13' crossing BB. Would you keep her at NBYC?
NB Whaler	#4  Posted on 06/25/15 - 7:09 PM
Member Posts: 5 Comments: 0 Joined: 06/18/15	Berger, Ee have moorings in the inner and outer harbor but no slip at NBYC. If I have a crisis anytime soon and decide to quit my job, I would absolutely love to live on Cuttyhunk over a winter. I have come very close on calm days to taking the 13 over there, but 8 miles is scary on 13 footer, and lord knows how the wind always picks up in the afternoon. Plus, the M-16 toting environmental police wouldn't be too happy if I flipped. I agree the early outrage/revenge is one of the best looking hulls I have seen. The chined hull would be nice but for this price I don't think I can turn away. Anyone have any info on the transom splitting?
Berger	#5  Posted on 06/25/15 - 7:15 PM
Member Posts: 61 Comments: 1 Joined: 02/20/15	I have made the trip in a 13' BW when we were very low on beer, not fun!
flippa	#6  Posted on 06/25/15 - 8:59 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 149 Comments: 2 Joined: 12/13/05	That is short money for a 19 hull as long as you don't mind a project. There really is no cheap boat, either you pay with cash or time, often both. I have never ridden in a 19' Revenge, but you will definitely appreciate the improved ride over a 13. I imagine they pound a bit like the 21 ft hull, but they are one stable boat. I used deck tanks on my 21 Outrage for many years and used the tank coffin for storage. Edited by flippa on 06/25/15 - 9:01 PM
donp	#7  Posted on 06/26/15 - 6:20 AM
Member Posts: 222 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/12/08	I suggest first asking yourself how much money it will it take to get the boat safe and operational. Consider making a list of all the things required starting with the engine. I would include a starting battery, gauges, controls, and steering system to be part of the engine price. I would assume worse case the transom needs to be replace so add that cost as well. Look the boat over carefully and look for the small items that can nickel and dime you. You mentioned the trailer was in good shape, but I would still throw in the price of new wheel bearings and tires. The next questions are do you have the free time to work on the boat and are you willing to spend it on land?
NB Whaler	#8  Posted on 06/26/15 - 4:40 PM
Member Posts: 5 Comments: 0 Joined: 06/18/15	I see the balance of time and money, and think of myself as capable of undertaking 80% of the work that needs to be done, along with paying for supplies. I am not looking for a masterpiece, rather a functional boat that will take me across a notoriously choppy bay. The boat is plenty safe as is, and I don't see myself taking major risks. Also, don't mind leaving it out of water, but I don't want a redneck lawn with boat parts scattered all over for years to come. I seem to be discouraged by the gelcoat. I don't enjoy sanding/grinding for long periods of time, and don't see any other economical way other than Line-x. consensus seems to be that 1200 is a good deal, worst case I let it go for 1/2 and sulk. My only other option for that price is a non-deep V mako. Money is not the issue, i would enjoy the satisfaction of rehabbing an old beaut. Just want to make sure that this Whaler looks the same on the inside as it does on the outside.
ritzyrags	#9  Posted on 06/28/15 - 11:25 AM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1003 Comments: 36 Joined: 06/18/08	For $1200 and considering having a good long and favorable inspection of the hull; You could have a lot of fun refitting this Classic 19.. There will be no need to redo everything all at once as you can improve the Whaler one detail at a time. Expect to spend a bit of money and many hours making it the way you will see fit. The asking price is actually very reasonable. You can view my project page for some answers to your future works. Dont lie Dont Cheat And dont give up..
VA Whaler	#10  Posted on 06/29/15 - 10:33 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 335 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/25/13	A quick litmus test would be to check the condition of the drains. Take a light and make sure they look/feel solid internally and the seals are intact. If possible put her on scales to see what it weighs and at the least, see how it floats. With no fuel tank it should be riding pretty high on the water and not list to one side. So long as the hull is in OK shape at least you have the foundation for a good project and not something that is destined for the landfill or the backyard.