View Thread
Before Posting, Please Read Our Posting Guidelines Below.

1. Use the full 4 digit year for everything you are asking your question about. Example: 1962, 1988, 2000, 2011
2. Include the correct name of your Whaler model. Example: Montauk 17, Montauk 170, Outrage 26, Outrage 260
3. Include the length when necessary. Example: 16, 17, 18, 20, 22
4. Do not post your email address anywhere on this site as it is already in your user profile.

 Print Thread
Merc 50 HP question
cleep1700
#1 Print Post
Posted on 05/14/15 - 4:51 AM
Member
Personal Page

Posts: 41
Comments: 0
Joined: 10/17/14

Bought my 1978 last fall and it came with a Mercury 50 hp. Had Bass Pro go through the engine and they cleaned up the carbs among other things. Took it out for it's first run recently and noticed that the engine seems to lag when I am half way to full throttle. A couple of times it stalled. I fired it back up and then slowly moved the throttle forward, it would reach the half way point, gurgle and grumble, and then slowly it would recover and the engine would sound as if it were running on all cylinders. Had this happen intermittently during my two hour run. Is this normal for an old engine? My boat is a 1978 and the engine is close to the same vintage. I took it back to Bass Pro at the end of the day and he said it sounded like the injectors(?) might be plugged up and an additive to the gas mixture is a possible solution.
Craig in windy Kansas


Edited by Joe Kriz on 05/06/16 - 2:41 PM
1978 Sport 15' with 50 hp Mercury
 
MG56
#2 Print Post
Posted on 05/14/15 - 3:29 PM
Member
Personal Page

Posts: 357
Comments: 0
Joined: 05/11/13

Bass pro cleaned up the carbs and then thought the problem was probably the injectors? Ya, you need a new mechanic.

Your carbs are probably junked up. Can you run the engine in your yard on muffs? If so you should do a de-carb.

It beats re-building the carbs and costs like $10.

 
Clyde in TS
#3 Print Post
Posted on 05/14/15 - 6:19 PM
Member

Posts: 25
Comments: 1
Joined: 04/16/14

Have you done a compression check? Have you run the engine out of the water? Running an old Mercury out of the water will cause the top cylinder rings to bind and you will be running on 3 cylinders. lAlso, a long time outboard mechanic told me that the Mercury 50 hp 4 cylinder (aka "504") is a very hardy and tough block, but has one weak spot. Check to see if the screws on the distributor advance have been backed out. If there is still a reasonable amount of adjustment in the distributor advance, then the problem is likely in the carbs. (I have a "504"). be sure to keep a good, clean, impeller pump in it and do not run it out of water! (don't ask me how I know). PS, the old Mercury outboards were rated for hp at the engine, not the shaft - so you would have a 40 by today's standards


cg
 
wlagarde
#4 Print Post
Posted on 05/14/15 - 7:46 PM
User Avatar
Member
Personal Page
Project Albums

Posts: 442
Comments: 2
Joined: 07/21/13

cleep1700 wrote:
Bought my 1978 last fall and it came with a Mercury 50 hp. Had Bass Pro go through the engine and they cleaned up the carbs among other things. Took it out for it's first run recently and noticed that the engine seems to lag when I am half way to full throttle. A couple of times it stalled. I fired it back up and then slowly moved the throttle forward, it would reach the half way point, gurgle and grumble, and then slowly it would recover and the engine would sound as if it were running on all cylinders. Had this happen intermittently during my two hour run. Is this normal for an old engine? My boat is a 1978 and the engine is close to the same vintage. I took it back to Bass Pro at the end of the day and he said it sounded like the injectors(?) might be plugged up and an additive to the gas mixture is a possible solution.
Craig in windy Kansas


I had similar engine behavior after I upgraded my engine to 50hp (http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=65). Before installing the carbs I had cleaned them with gumout and rebuilt them with new seals, floats, etc - yes I was frustrated!

I pulled the carbs back off and fully disassembled them again. I found an ever so small piece or crap lodged in the main jet of one of the 3 carbs. This time I ultrasonically cleaned them and reassembled. I then flushed the whole fuel system and installed a fuel/water separator/filter. When I fired the engine up again the problem was gone. Lesson learned - it doesn't take much to partially clog the jets in a carbureted engine.


Edited by wlagarde on 05/14/15 - 8:01 PM
1976 Sport 15 w/ 2005 50hp Nissan 2 stroke
 
cleep1700
#5 Print Post
Posted on 05/06/16 - 4:38 AM
Member
Personal Page

Posts: 41
Comments: 0
Joined: 10/17/14

Two years ago I bought my first Whaler, a 15 footer, but had problems with the 50 hp Merc. The motor gurgled and stuttered when I pushed the throttle forward halfway between neutral and wide open. I ask the forum for advice and I wanted to let you know the outcome. Originally I took it to Bass Pro to be worked on, for it was close to my home, and I was a newbie who thought that they would solve the problem. However, the techs there are all very young and clueless about carburated engines....just billed me for outrageously for nothing. Somebody recommended that I find a mechanic who was older than the engine, this one a 1978. Well, I'm telling you that I did just that and now my Whaler is the boat that I dreamed about. Splashed it yesterday after winter work by my new found genius mechanic and it runs like a top: wot 33 mph by the indicator on my Humminbird and a motor that hums without a hitch. I couldn't be happier! So my advice to fellow newbies...ask for advice on this forum and you will find friends who have the correct answers or can lead you in that direction.


Edited by Joe Kriz on 05/06/16 - 12:43 PM
1978 Sport 15' with 50 hp Mercury
 
tedious
#6 Print Post
Posted on 05/06/16 - 7:00 AM
User Avatar
Member
Personal Page

Posts: 1072
Comments: 2
Joined: 09/07/08

Craig, great story! I like the idea of "find a mechanic who is older than the engine!"

Beautiful boat, by the way!

Tim

 
Jump to Forum:
Bookmark and Share
Today's Date & Time
November 23, 2024 - 3:26 AM
Visit our Sponsors
Wm. J. Mills and Co. - Boston Whaler Canvas


Nauset Marine - Whaler Parts and Accessories


Carver Covers - The Best Covers Under The Sun


Specialty Marine - Parts and Accessories



Click on logo to visit site
View all Sponsors Here
Users Online
Welcome
AuntiesMontauk
as the newest member

· Guests Online: 7
· Members Online: 0
· Total Members: 50,390
Login
Username

Password

Remember Me


Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Top 5 Models Posted
· Montauk 17 1,638
· Sport 13 1,366
· Outrage 18 556
· Nauset 16 402
· Sport 15 365

View all Models Here
Render time: 0.17 seconds Copyright WhalerCentral.com © 2003-2024 86,545,248 unique visits