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Yamaha updates their F150
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| Marko888 |
Posted on 11/04/14 - 11:41 AM
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http://www.onthewater.com/wp-content/...t_F150.pdf
Nothing too dramatic, and no evidence of a weight reduction.
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| ClawFishing |
Posted on 02/20/15 - 10:18 AM
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The new F150xb is 489 lbs and the old F150xa is 491 lbs. I agree, no evidence of weight reduction.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 02/20/15 - 10:35 AM
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The Yamaha US website still shows the F150 @491 pounds with the 25" shaft.
F150XA = 223 kg (491 lbs)
http://yamahaoutboards.com/outboards/...ifications
Who is correct with the weight?
onthewater.com or Yamahaoutboards.com ?
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| gentilebrian |
Posted on 02/20/15 - 1:31 PM
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Last year they came out with the 200hp 4cyl. 50 more HP then the 150 and is the same weight and size. Would Love to repower my conquest 23 with a pair of the 200's. (yes I know its only rated for 300hp but I can dream).
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| ClawFishing |
Posted on 02/25/15 - 5:59 AM
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Looks like On The Water needs to make a correction... Only think I could think of is that they got pre-production numbers
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| Finnegan |
Posted on 02/25/15 - 1:13 PM
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With the introduction of the new Mercury 150 4-stroke, Yamaha really had no choice but to try to make their 150 look upgraded.
But it is still heavier than the Merc's 455#, with smaller dispacement than the Merc's 3.0 liters, and accordingly with less power and performance, and costs a lot more than the Merc's $10,100 price tag.
Mercury has now, like Yamaha did many years ago, eliminated the Optimax 75-125HP 2-stroke models bacause of their new lightweight 75-115 4-strokes at 359#.
So now, if you need a repower for your classic Whaler, it's predominantly 4-stoke offerings, unless you want an E-tec or can find a good used or remanufactured 2-stroke.
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| Buoy |
Posted on 02/28/15 - 9:25 AM
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Finnegan wrote:
But it is still heavier than the Merc's 455#, with smaller dispacement than the Merc's 3.0 liters, and accordingly with less power and performance, and costs a lot more than the Merc's $10,100 price tag.
I always heard that the Merc 150 was around $10k but the Merc rep at the boat show quoted me an $11k price which he said was discounted.
Where can I see Merc pricing for $10,100?
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| Finnegan |
Posted on 02/28/15 - 2:02 PM
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As all of us know, one has to REALLY shop around on outboard pricing. It is all over the spectrum.
Here is the place in TN that will ship you one (or install for you if you are in the region), with no out of state sales tax and very reasonable shipping cost. One of our members here recently bought a pair of these new 150's, for price listed, and had them shipped to TX for his Outrage 25.
http://www.jacosmarine.com/mercuryeng.../index.cfm
I want to mention that I have absolutely NO relationship with this dealer, and don't
know any people there, except to have been a repeat phone order customer on an engine, Mercury rigging parts (also discounted with no sales tax), and several Mercury props (where their prices are also unbeatable). I found them simply by "internet shopping".
Actually, since Mercury appears to have a rebate promotion going right now, they indicate your price will actually be less than the 10K.
I would also say that their pricing could be a good comparative reference source, and bargaining position, for anyone shopping for ANY brand of outboard.
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| ClawFishing |
Posted on 03/01/15 - 9:19 AM
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Finnegan wrote:
As all of us know, one has to REALLY shop around on outboard pricing. It is all over the spectrum.
Here is the place in TN that will ship you one (or install for you if you are in the region), with no out of state sales tax and very reasonable shipping cost. One of our members here recently bought a pair of these new 150's, for price listed, and had them shipped to TX for his Outrage 25.
http://www.jacosmarine.com/mercuryeng.../index.cfm
I want to mention that I have absolutely NO relationship with this dealer, and don't
know any people there, except to have been a repeat phone order customer on an engine, Mercury rigging parts (also discounted with no sales tax), and several Mercury props (where their prices are also unbeatable). I found them simply by "internet shopping".
Actually, since Mercury appears to have a rebate promotion going right now, they indicate your price will actually be less than the 10K.
I would also say that their pricing could be a good comparative reference source, and bargaining position, for anyone shopping for ANY brand of outboard.
If you want to get insight into dealer costs I've used this website a lot. Just remember dealers still have to make money unless you get a leftover they want to dump for new inventory...
http://www.seedealercost.com/
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| Finnegan |
Posted on 03/01/15 - 12:56 PM
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Comparing Jaco's advertized pricing, I don't think that website is credible. It could even be a way to make users think they are getting a great deal when in fact they aren't, or to protect smaller operations. They show the Dealer Cost of the Mercury 150 3.0 liter EFi 4-stroke at $11, 365.
Yet Jaco's is selling them all day long for $10,070. None of us should be so naive as to believe they are selling these engines, over the last two years where the price has not changed at all, at a $1300 loss per engine.
I believe (don't actually know) that the real situation is that larger, high volume marine dealerships, like Jaco's probably is, buy for less than the little guys. That's just the way it is across all industries.
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| Whaler27 |
Posted on 03/06/15 - 6:04 PM
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The problem with comparing the price on seedealercost.com and jacosmarine.com is that Mercury does not designate model years for their motors. So one cannot know in looking at the prices at these two websites whether they are comparing the price of motors that are of the same manufacturing date or motors having manufacturing dates several years apart. A motor with an older manufacturing date should be lower price than one with a newer manufacturing date.
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| Silentpardner |
Posted on 03/06/15 - 7:01 PM
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The Yamaha US website still shows the F150 @491 pounds with the 25" shaft.
F150XA = 223 kg (491 lbs)
http://yamahaoutboards.com/outboards/...ifications
Who is correct with the weight?
onthewater.com or Yamahaoutboards.com ?
Joe Kriz
Well, the site you quote Joe is clearly showing the weight of a F150XA , and the article Marko is citing is about the new F150XB. Obviously, it is possible that BOTH sites are correct :)
The difference in weight between the 2 completely different motors, if you believe all the hype regarding the "improved" F150B, is negligible, in my opinion anyway! Less than 10 lbs difference would be in my mind equivalent to less than a hill of beans :)
To all the rest of you responding to this thread...
How in the heck does Mercury 150 HP pricing have ANYTHING to do with the YAMAHA F150B introduction to the market? If someone is going to buy a new motor for their boat, all of the brands pricing are within a couple of thousand bucks of each other. I fail to see how the price of a boat motor will determine whether or not it will be the new motor selected by a prospective customer. If someone is getting into boating, a couple of thousand bucks had better not be a problem...if it is, you will be OUT of boating very quickly indeed :)
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| ClawFishing |
Posted on 03/11/15 - 4:01 AM
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Silentpardner wrote:
The Yamaha US website still shows the F150 @491 pounds with the 25" shaft.
F150XA = 223 kg (491 lbs)
http://yamahaoutboards.com/outboards/...ifications
Who is correct with the weight?
onthewater.com or Yamahaoutboards.com ?
Joe Kriz
Well, the site you quote Joe is clearly showing the weight of a F150XA , and the article Marko is citing is about the new F150XB. Obviously, it is possible that BOTH sites are correct :)
The difference in weight between the 2 completely different motors, if you believe all the hype regarding the "improved" F150B, is negligible, in my opinion anyway! Less than 10 lbs difference would be in my mind equivalent to less than a hill of beans :)
To all the rest of you responding to this thread...
How in the heck does Mercury 150 HP pricing have ANYTHING to do with the YAMAHA F150B introduction to the market? If someone is going to buy a new motor for their boat, all of the brands pricing are within a couple of thousand bucks of each other. I fail to see how the price of a boat motor will determine whether or not it will be the new motor selected by a prospective customer. If someone is getting into boating, a couple of thousand bucks had better not be a problem...if it is, you will be OUT of boating very quickly indeed :)
I have to agree with you, not worth bringing up Mercury in this thread. Until dealers start getting delievery of the F150XB it is going to be hard to find details.
Motors, just like boat brands, will always have their devout followers just like the Chevy vs. Ford guys.
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