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| Mark Sr |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 5:06 AM
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http://hamptonroads.com/2009/12/two-f...bay-bridge
The rockfish season is just starting to heat up in the lower Chesapeake Bay. Yesterday was very nice early but started to get cool and gloomy around 2pm.
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| CES |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 5:31 AM
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Wow, very tragic story. With both men found floating in the water and the 28 foot BW still missing, it leads me to believe foul play was involved. Choppy seas for a 28 footer isn't enough to throw two men overboard.
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| HarleyFXDL |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 5:49 AM
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I agree Cliff. Something does not smell right with this story. A search of the area would have turned up something if there was no foul play.
Kevin
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| number9 |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 6:06 AM
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Yes very sad and many questions.
Boat found. http://www.wvec.com/news/local/Coast-...62127.html
Bill...On the Ogeechee
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| WhalerDan |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 7:01 AM
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I bet they were both leaning over the side to bring in a fish, and a wave caused the boat to pitch and they fell in. Cold water, no easy way to get back on board, older men, no PFD or radio, and maybe boat was in gear. Very sad, but feasible. I'm always paranoid about falling in. At least they were together, and doing something they loved to do.
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| MW |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 9:45 AM
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TRAGIC, possibly avoidable too, PFD's, I won't go on "ANY" boat without wearing one.
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| kamie |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 9:51 AM
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Lots of waves, swirling currents and boat traffic, including large naval ships down there. I have know folks to be rocked by waves from a boat they never see (read su . It's very sad. It does remind me to grab my PFD from the boat. I am down in the same area next weekend for a fishing charter.
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| joninnj |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 10:33 AM
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This does sound like foal play... A 28 boat of any kind just does not go missing. They were still in the bay... How bad can it get in a 28 ft boat even with traffic. If it capsized it would still float although it may be over in it's side.
Very sad...
Jon in NJ
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| HarleyFXDL |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 11:00 AM
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They found the boat near an island. Pretty much rules out foul play. Just plain sad.
Kevin
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| JohnnyCW |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 11:53 AM
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Foul play... based on no evidence to suggest such? Some of you guys are really the suspicious type.
My take on the probable scenario... because of some reason we can only guess, one of the brothers falls into the drink. The second brother goes overboard either accidentally or on purpose trying to recover the first. No PFD's, water temperature in the 50's, and then factor in the age of the deceased boaters. Just takes one mistake to set forth such a tragedy. Even if they were good swimmers, they where probably unconscious within an hour of hitting the water.
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| HarleyFXDL |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 12:03 PM
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I live in NYC John, I am suspicious of EVERYONE!
Kevin
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| JohnnyCW |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 1:26 PM
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lol, I understand.
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| CES |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 1:31 PM
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JohnnyCW wrote:
Foul play... based on no evidence to suggest such? Some of you guys are really the suspicious type.
Our remarks were made after the first article was published and well before the second article was published. Based on only the information in first article alone, it was easy to think that foul play made have had something to do with it.
Cliff
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| whalerman |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 1:50 PM
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Very sad, PFD's and a good boarding/swim ladder of some make would have probbly changed the outcome. Just a few weeks ago 3 guys were going out the inlet here and were thrown out of the boat by a set of waves, the pilot of the boat didn't have the emergency kill lanyard hooked to him and the boat kept going and slammed into the rock jety. Remember this; Always take two minutes for safety!!
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| arthureld |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 2:47 PM
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Positive thoughts going out to the old guys.
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| JohnnyCW |
Posted on 12/05/09 - 7:29 PM
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CES wrote:
JohnnyCW wrote:
Foul play... based on no evidence to suggest such? Some of you guys are really the suspicious type.
Our remarks were made after the first article was published and well before the second article was published. Based on only the information in first article alone, it was easy to think that foul play made have had something to do with it.
Fatal boating accidents are not at all uncommon. Maybe murder in our coastal waters is more common than I thought.
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| HarleyFXDL |
Posted on 12/06/09 - 7:38 AM
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If someone is stupid enough to try and buy a Whaler from a marina and told it was sold, then hook the boat up to his truck and head off on a hollywood chase scene, it would not be completely unfathomable to assume someone might have boat jacked the 28' boat. The first report stated that the boat was missing and only the men were found. I would venture to say that a 28' boat would be a easier to find in the water than two bodies, which led me to my initial assumption.
Kevin
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| Josey Whaler |
Posted on 12/06/09 - 10:47 AM
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Johnny & Harley,
This is a great example of why it is usually a bad idea to form opinions, and express them publicly, with almost no facts and a small amount of incomplete information.
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| HarleyFXDL |
Posted on 12/06/09 - 1:13 PM
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I'm not heading up the investigation, so my opinion was merely conversation, nothing more.
Kevin
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| arthureld |
Posted on 12/06/09 - 1:28 PM
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Josey Whaler wrote:This is a great example of why it is usually a bad idea to form opinions, and express them publicly
hahaha too funny.
I wonder if there will be some kind of determination about what happened.
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