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Thanks Phil. I see a good sale price for a Carver through tomorrow at Bald Mike's. Do you know if the transom is open like a Mills or connects to an outboard cover? Might call Carver tomorrow. Would like to hear about any other off the shelf or semi-customs but for a 1972, pickins might be getting slim. Researching WC and CW I have seen some various brands mentioned 10 years ago that don't seem to have options today.