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Posted by Bill Jackson on 03/02/15 - 5:54 PM

I have pretty well decided on buying the Montauk 210 and was wondering if any of you know what other boats out there are comparable to it.

I saw a 23 Ultra in Naples recently and thought that it looked very similar in design. Does anyone know anything about that particular boat?

Edited by Bill Jackson on 03/03/15 - 12:18 AM

Posted by butchdavis on 03/03/15 - 6:16 AM

The closest comparable to the 210 Montauk is the 190 Montauk. Only Boston Whaler builds a boat like the larger Montauks or any other Montauk for that matter.

If you are interested in just any other 21 foot center console bay fishing boat there are plenty of them. Will they meet or exceed BWs construction standards or fit and finish levels? Perhaps, but I do not know of any. There are other high quality CC boats on the market so a search of some quality builders web sites may provide some interesting boats. Not that I'm biased.

Posted by Bill Jackson on 03/09/15 - 10:55 AM

butchdavis wrote:

If you are interested in just any other 21 foot center console bay fishing boat...

Butch:

Thanks for your response. I guess that to put it a better way, is a Montauk 210 BW's version of a 21 foot center console bay fishing boat? It was my impression that the 210 could be taken outside protected waters. On the other hand can most of these type boats be used outside protected waters and I am just taking the language to literally?

Posted by Phil T on 03/09/15 - 2:34 PM

The Montauk 210 can handle ocean conditions up the limits of a small craft advisory (SCA).

The definition of SCA is:

..astern (ME..SC, Lake Erie, Lake Ontario) - Sustained winds or frequent gusts ranging between 25 and 33 knots (except 20 to 25 knots, lower threshold area dependent, to 33 knots for harbors, bays, etc.) and/or seas or waves 5 to 7 feet and greater, area dependent.

cf: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/os/marine/cwd...ne/cwd.htm

Personally, my limit is 5 waves and/or winds higher than 25 mph. More than this I find uncomfortable and would prefer a 25' Whaler.

Posted by Bill Jackson on 03/10/15 - 7:12 PM

Thanks to both of you.

After my last post I found the 2014 Montauk 210 manual on the BW site and started reading it. In section 2, page 3, I came across the following:

210 Montauk
CE Certification Design Category

NOTICE: Your 210 Montauk is design category C

A (Ocean):

Designed for extended voyages where conditions may exceed wind force 8 on the
Beaufort scale (47 mph and above) and significant wave heights of 4 meters (13.12 feet) and above, and vessels largely self-sufficient.

B (Offshore):

Designed for offshore voyages where conditions up to, and including, wind force 8 (39-46 mph) and significant wave heights up to, and including 4 meters (13.12 feet) may be experienced.

C (Inshore):

Designed for voyages in coastal waters, large bays, estuaries, lakes and rivers where conditions up to, and including, wind force 6 (25-31 mph) and significant wave heights up to, and including, 2 meters (6.56 feet) may be experienced.

D (Sheltered waters):

Designed for voyages on small lakes, rivers and canals where conditions up to, and including, wind force 4 (13-18 mph) and significant wave heights up to, and including, 0.5 meters (1.64) feet may be experienced.

The significant wave height is considered to be the primary factor for determining design category. Other parameters (e.g. meteorological) are descriptions of when these wave heights may be expected to occur. Refer to page 1-11 for weather information.

I never heard of a "CE Certification Design Category" before but it certainly shows that you were both right on the mark with your description of its capabilities.

Edited by Bill Jackson on 03/10/15 - 7:15 PM