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Thanks weatherly, I was not a member of Whaler Central when I was looking for boats. I kept my eye on craigslist from Arizona, to Texas. to Nevada, every city in each state. I was willing to drive 1500 miles to get the boat myself.I just happened to look at the california craigslist and saw the Fresno add. It had been posted for two days, and I have seen so many people jump all over these boats. It sucks that you have to be so aggressive if you want it bad. My options were a bidding war with gotfishsd, or a long drive home for one of us, and the other a boat price that would have been $2,000 higher. I rolled the dice on what I saw online and bought it sight unseen .I would have never snaked a boat off this site.Hope I cleared things up.