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I just joined the group not too long ago. I have a 1973 Montauk with stencil number 3A7281 and hull number ending in 0473. The boat is in a shop getting the trailer worked on. Should have it back tomorrow or the next day. I believe this would make my Montauk the oldest one on the Montauk list. Is that true? It is in fairly good shape. I saw on the list where the other ones listed are verified. How do you get it verified?

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To find out what model it was when it left the factory, you would need to talk to Boston Whaler and give them your stencil number from the hull.

You could also show us a photo of what your boat looks like today.
If it is a Montauk, then it should look like these and have the factory fiberglass console and factory seat.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=14

Always looking for older examples of any of the models.

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So I am assuming I can post photos of my boat on my personal page. If so, I will do that when I get it back from the shop. I tool a pic in the sunlight and did not get the whole hull number but I have most of it. I will get it all when I post pics. Mine looks like the 1974 that was posted. But my hull number says it is a 1973. Mine has both handrails and the fiberglass console and teak doors and seats. I just replaced the seat with one just like the old one. I also added a Bimini top. I will post pics as soon as I get my boat back. Thanks The motor is an 85 HP Johnson 1981 which I hope to replace with a Yamaha F70 hp in the future.

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You could also just put a link here to your photos you have somewhere else on the Internet like photobucket, etc.

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Here is the info and some pics of my Whaler. From what I can tell it is a 1973 Boston Whaler Montauk made in April of 1973. If anyone knows different please tell me. I don't really care if it is old as long as I have the info right on my Whaler. It is in fairly good shape for as old as it is. I would like to get it registered on this page.

http://www.whalercentral.com/articles.php?cat_id=7&article_id=17

Who does that?

http://chagres.com/BWM73A.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73B.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73C.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73D.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73E.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73F.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73G.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73H.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73I.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73J.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73K.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73L.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73M.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73N.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73O.jpg

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Looks like the numbers are:

BWCA58450473
3A7281

I list all the boats on that page that are verified by Boston Whaler.
See the first boats made in 1973:
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=17

You would need to have your numbers verified by Boston Whaler to make positively sure it left the factory on 0473 as Montauk.
I would then be happy to add your boat on the Montauk list.

If it did not leave the factory as a Montauk, then someone added the console and RPS at a later date. Could have even been a dealer but we don't know unless you have more paperwork or info.

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OK I went to the Boston Whaler home page and I don't see anywhere to contact C. Bennett at Boston Whaler. Can someone tell me how this is done? Thanks All I see is a ready made form to contact for other purposes.

http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Page.aspx/pageId/29411/Countries/''/Contact-Us.aspx

>>>For specific questions about your Boston Whaler boat, please call 1-877-294-5645. This toll free system is answered 8:00 am - 5:00 pm Eastern, Monday through Friday.<<<


Do I call this number to get in touch with C. Bennett?

Thanks

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I can see where someone might have made it into a Montauk but they sure went through a lot of work to do it. I sure would like to prove one way or the other. The only ID number on the Certificate of Title is the Stencil number.

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You can call them but it might be easier to email Chuck >>> cbennett@whaler.com

That sure looks like a Montauk to me.

http://chagres.com/BWM73A.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73B.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73C.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73D.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73E.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73F.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73G.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73H.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73I.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73J.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73K.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73L.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73M.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73N.jpg

http://chagres.com/BWM73O.jpg

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Below is Chuck Bennet's reply to my email this morning.

Hi Mr. Barkema,

According to our shipping records; serial number 3A7281 was built in our old Rockland, MA factory as a 16'7" Montauk and was originally shipped out to High & Dry Marina, Inc., in Clearwater, FL, on 4/12/73.
This was the first year of the Montauk.

Regards,
Chuck Bennett
Boston Whaler, Inc.
(877) 294-5645
cbennett@whaler.com

From: Heraldino Barkema (email removed as it is in profile)
To: "cbennett@whaler.com" <cbennett@whaler.com>
Date: 10/30/2014 08:38 AM
Subject: 1973 Whaler

Hello Mr. Bennett

I just purchased a 1973 Boston Whaler that is in pretty good shape. The people at Whaler Central said I should contact you to find out what kind of Whaler my boat was when it was sold. It is 16'7". and looks like a Montauk. Below is the Stencil number and the HIN number.

Stencil number is 3A7281

HIN number is BWCA58450473

Any info you can give me on this boat would be very much appreciated.

Thank you
Heraldino Barkema

Port Saint Lucie, FL

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CZ

I doubt most people have to verify their model to the stencil & HIN numbers to register a boat here. The reason you had to is your boat is so rare. Right now you have the earliest Montauk verified to exist today.

You should email Chuck back and ask him how many Montauks were made before your stencil/HIN. All he has to do is open the ledger and count how many were made above your boat. I bet I have more fingers one hand.

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cz4,

Congratulations. It looks like you have the oldest factory Montauk left in existence as far as our lists goes.

Many of these older Montauks I'm sure no longer exist or survived through the years remaining a Montauk. Many today might be what Whaler calls a "Custom" model if the original interior is no longer present.

Had your Montauk been newer, I would have added it to that list without any problems. As MB56 mentions above though, sometimes the older models need positive verification from Boston Whaler to be authenticated.
Otherwise we would probably have 50 or 60 1961 and 1963 Montauks on that list which, even though they were never made, because many people think that is what they own.

I have been keeping track of Montauk information for many years.
Ever since I purchased mine back in 1988. Sometimes different info, parts, etc., comes to our attention.

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Chuck Bennett's reply's to my last 2 emails.

According to our records, the first Montauk was hull # 3A6757. This was built on 2/2/73.
Regards,
Chuck Bennett
Boston Whaler, Inc.
(877) 294-5645
cbennett@whaler.com


I counted 13 were built before your boat.
Regards,
Chuck Bennett
Boston Whaler, Inc.
(877) 294-5645
cbennett@whaler.com

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Joe Kriz

Here is an example of what you said. A 1962 Boston Whaler Montauk for sale.

http://treasure.craigslist.org/boa/4731800493.html

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I see in the last two photographs holes in the thwarts and forward bulkhead and some gelcoat ghosting. I will speculate that a forward casting platform was installed at one point, which would indicate this boat left Rockland, MA factory as a Montauk II model.

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1975 is the first year the bow platform shows up in the catalogs or prices lists that I can find for the Montauk.

I have seen Montauk II reference in the past but cannot find it now.
Can anyone tell us what catalog and what page this is listed?

Below is some info from the 1975 price lists and accessories.

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I read somewhere that the difference between the Montauk I and the Montauk II is that the Montauk II came with handrails. I wish I could find that article. I'm talking 1973 Montauk here.

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cz4,

Unfortunately those are not genuine Boston Whaler documents.

I am looking for genuine Boston Whaler documents that show Montauk II.

My attachment above from 1975 is from a genuine Boston Whaler document.
Not something someone made up.

Can anyone point us to a genuine Boston Whaler document that shows a Montauk II ?
And genuine documentation that states what makes a Montauk I and/or a Montauk II ?

The Cohasset I and II is well documented in the Whaler catalogs and here on our site we show these models.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=31

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I knew I had seen a reference to Montauk II.

They don't show the genuine document on Jim's site that I can see.

However we have that Packing List in our downloads section here:
http://www.whalercentral.com/download...p?cat_id=5

Confusing on some items like the 1973 Montauk that were never even listed in the 1973 Boston Whaler catalog.

If Boston Whaler didn't mention it left the factory as a II model, then most likely it wasn't, unless they didn't record that information during that timeframe.

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Mine looks like it had the bow platform so if anyone has a good pic of the bow platform I would like to eventually put one on my boat.

I thank you all for all your help.

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We have photos of the bow platform in our Photo Gallery section under OEM Part Info and Photos.

http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...oto_id=362

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WOW, that is nothing like I thought it would be. I thought it was some teak boards that ran across the front that you could stand and fish of off. You know, with spaces in between. Like some people put in the bottom of their home made boats.

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The older platforms for the Currituck and Sakonnet are made of wood slats with spaces in between the boards.

The fiberglass bow platform is very nice and was available in 2 versions.
1. 1973 to 1975 (smirkless hulls only)
2. 1976 to fit probably up to 2002 (smirked hulls)

If you are looking for one, make sure you get the correct unit.

Here is one in a 1975 model.
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=20361

Another one from 1975
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...er_id=9203

And here is one in a 1974 model.
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=18100

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I can see it now.

Everyone with a bow platform will now think they have a Montauk II.

Forget it.
Unless you have the original packing list or paperwork, it will most likely still be a Montauk with the optional bow platform.
Bummer.

One of the main reasons I never mentioned it back then was that there was a very remote chance that anyone had one. Without any paperwork, who could prove it?
Even Boston Whaler doesn't have much on what it really is and never listed it in their catalogs or price lists.
Just the way it is, or was.
No Montauk II for anyone unless they have the original paperwork.
That would be nice.

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Thanks Joe. Now that I see it, I don't want it. It takes up mout of the boat. I don't need something else to trip over when I am fishing.

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Don't get me wrong.

I like the platform.
The next Montauk I get I hope to add a platform if possible.
Whether I leave it in or not will be the final outcome.

Whatever Montauk I get, I highly doubt I would call it a Montauk II unless I had the original paperwork stating such.
That is my point.

Somewhat like way too many people think they own a 1969 Montauk.
Or, way too many people think they own a Sakonnet because it has an RPS.
Freaks me out.
Makes me want to bury my head in the sand and hide.

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The I or II is not important to me. Being a Montauk is. Whar will be hard for me is if I keep it original or not. There are things I would like to add that is not Montauk.

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There's one of those fiberglass casting platform made for the smirkless Montauk that's for sale right now. You should jump on it, they didn't pop up often... http://maine.craigslist.org/boa/47078...98119.html

There shouldn't be a lot of those made, much less still intact. Being advertised for a few weeks, I bet it could be bought for around $400, which is a real bargain...

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Thanks Saumon. I could get interested in this if it wasn't in Maine. Long ways from East Central Florida. I hope someone on the list picks it up.

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I reviewed the Boston Whaler catalogues for 1973-1976 and the Montauk was described as the Montauk 16. The smirked hull highlighted in the 1976 catalogue was described as the Montauk 17. It seems the correct name for a Montauk with a smirkless hull is, as the Boston Whaler catalogues described, a Montauk 16.

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That is correct for 1974 and 1975. Not 1976 nor 1973.
Remember, there were no Montauks listed in the 1973 catalogs so they never existed on paper for public history.
1976 introduced the smirked hull which were called 17' models.

What is your point? or idea?

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Found this item for sale on Ebay. It is an advertisement or article about the Boston Whaler Montauk that came out in a yachting magazine back in 1973. I find the article and picture interesting. I have no idea what Lee Outriggers are that they talk about. I also see pole holders of the storage kind hanging from the handrails. I would like to find these. What are the 2 boxes at the back of the handrails? I would also like to know if it had a Bimini Top. Seems to have one folded forward in this pic. The artickle is also confusing the way it is written. Near the bottom it says. “Standard equipment on the 770-lb. Montauk I is most complete.” Can someone explain to me what that means? Here is the item on Ebay. I downloaded the image and enlarged it so I could see it better.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Boston-Whaler-Montauk-SeaBird-V-28-Coronado-23-New-Boats-Ad-/371172064883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566b943e73

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I do have a recommendation: establish a Montauk 16 section in the Whaler models and specs and in the personal pages. That way WC members and guests will be able to distinguish further the differences, of which there are many, between the Montauk 16 and the Montauk 17 models.

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Thanks for the suggestion.

It is not really worth the effort as we already have several pages and info on the difference between the two along with personal pages, etc..
There are a few other models that carry over to both smirkless and smirked hulls and still not worth the added duplication in the database.
Some of these are only for one year so these models are grouped into one common section.
Otherwise it would get too confusing for the majority even trying to find which model they are looking for by size.
Most people think they have a 17' anyway no matter what year it is. Especially the Montauk 17'
The rest of us know some models never were called a 17' model.

Here is one page that explains the Montauk enough for most of us which I started years ago.
Explains some parts down to latch changes, console changes, hull changes, etc.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=17

And then carried onto another page for the newer Montauk 170 because it has existed much longer then the 16 model.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...cle_id=115

According to the Boston Whaler catalogs, 1974 and 1975 (2 years) were the only Montauk 16 models. Remember, the Montauk was not listed in the 1973 catalog.
1976 to 2002 were the Montauk 17 models (26 years)
2002 to present is the Montauk 170 model (12 years so far and counting)

We also used to have the Outrage 24' listed by itself along side the Outrage 25'. Didn't work out.
People looked for the Outrage 25' which was the same hull with a different name so we removed the 24' listing in our Model section and included it with the Outrage 25's.

Another section we grouped together but still isn't finished, is the Outrage V-20 and the Outrage 20.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...album_id=9

If anyone has worked with searching database information and creating the search guidelines, will know it is easier grouping some things together. At least it is for me, and the end result should be gratifying more for the searcher.
They find what they are looking for easier.

Sometimes we make adjustments however, we already have a few members thinking their 1975 Montauk is a II model because they have the bow platform.
In the 1975 price lists, the bow platform was optional and the bow rail was standard. Therefore, there should be no I or II model for the 1975 year.

I have yet to see a true Montauk I or Montauk II with paperwork or confirmation from Boston Whaler to back it up.
See attachment below.
This is one model Boston Whaler doesn't even have any publicized information about that we have seen.

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cz4me,

The other parts you are asking about is in our Photo Gallery menu under OEM Parts info and photos.

Lee's console outrigger mount
http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...oto_id=355

Locking rod holder boxes
http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...oto_id=564

And much, much, more here:
http://www.whalercentral.com/viewpage...page_id=69

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Thanks Joe and thank you all for helping out a new member to this wonderful group.

I first got interested in the Boston Whaler when I lived in Port Townsend, WA in the early 1980’s. I used to go out on this jetty to fish at night in the freezing cold with my tackle and a bottle of Jim Beam. Caught a lot of Black Bass doing this. Port Townsend stuck out into Puget Sound near the Starits of Juan de Fuca. The fastest straits in the world. I almost lost it once being out there in a 10’ boat. Anorther time with a 26’ with a 6 cylinder inboard. The tide going out and I am full power with that 6 cylinder trying to go forward but instead going backward. The Coast Guard got me out of that one. When the tide goes out especially if it is a real low tide, all of the water in Puget Sound all the way down to Tacoma tries to get to the ocean through the Straits of Juan de Fuca. A 110 mile channel. The Coast Guard in Port Townsend had 2 boats. A 96’ cutter and a 17 foot Boston Whaler with a 100 hp motor. One day during a bad storm I heard there were some boats in trouble in the straits. I went out on my jetty in the blowing wind and watched the Coast Guard with their 17’ Whaler fly across the water and pull in 30 and 40‘ boats. Once they dropped one boat off they were off again flying across the water to get another one. I saw this 17’ Whaler do things I never thought a 17’ boat could do. That sold me on the Whaler. I could not afford one but I sure sent for Whaler brochures and saw the boat cut in half and 3 people diving off the side of a 13 footer at the same time. Back then I said one day I am going to own one. Well it took me about 35 years but now I have one and am too broken up to take it through the paces. I will be strictly freshwater from here on out. I spent the last 13 years in the country of Panama fishing salt water. Wow what a trip. I sure could have used the Whaler down there. Now I hope to catch fish the size of the bait I used down there. I have had a lot of boats before the Whaler but never felt the way I do about this boat. Just something about a Whaler I guess. Hey, I am glad to be a part of this group.

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cz4me,

Thanks for sharing an excellent story and a bit of yourself.

-George