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Joe, I am over the deleted thread. I just do not understand why you still claim even in your post earlier today I had never made such a claim. You basically outright disputed my belief that there was ever a logo without the ®. You claimed that it if a Whaler had a logo without one, it must not have been present because they had been "worn off". So, your statement of earlier in the thread of "Where did Jeff say that the old sticker didn't have the "®" ??????" seems strange...

I truly believe from what I have seen that 1975 into 1976 was the change over for the logos with ®. I do not know when the exact change over is. Looking through the catalogs tonight the very first time you clearly see a ® on any logo is in the 1979 catalog on page 4 with new V-22 Outrage. You can also see it for the first time on the V-20 Outrage image, 21 & 19 Revenge, Newport, 17 sport, 13 Sport, Sport 11, 9 Tender. The only time before that I saw was, there looks like there could be one on the 9 Tender on page 3 of the 1977 catalog but it is just a blurry spec if there is one. If anyone can find one before that please direct us to it.

Know we all know the catalog images are not reliable sources for data on exact dating of model changes. The photography of the boats was often used year after year and at times even after there was a change of some sort. But, I think we can all agree the images in Tom's set are not doctored in anyway so, there are images from Whaler showing their boats with logo minus the ®.

So, there was a logo without ® used for many years. Lets figure out an approximate change over date if we can. I am 99.9% certain my 1975 13 had it's true factory installed Decal without it. Larry's 1975 19 for certain has it's true factory installed Decal without it. I am 99.9% certain my 1976 17 Newport has it's true factory installed Decal with it.