Thread subject: Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos :: Montauk Gas Tank - Is this New?
Posted by jharrell on 11/11/09 - 11:16 AM
#1
Looking around for a new single gas tank to replace the two red 12 gals I have now I have been reading about getting the Moeller 26 gal and having to raise the seat some for a good fit.
In browsing around though I found this:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/...assNum=257
Looks new and have not heard anyone mention it here, seems perfect since it is basically made for the Montauk.
Anyone have one of these?
Also has anyone put a sender unit on a on deck moeller fuel tank in order to have a gauge on the dash?
Posted by Blackduck on 11/11/09 - 11:48 AM
#2
Yes, this is new, and it looks like a good tank for under the RPS, however, you should be able to find it for $200 or so, can't remember where, just google it.
Posted by mattgeiger on 11/11/09 - 12:46 PM
#3
I like it!
Posted by Joe Kriz on 11/11/09 - 1:45 PM
#4
The tank is listed on Moeller's site.
Scroll to the bottom of the page and compare the 24 to the 26 gallon.
http://www.moellermarine.com/aftermar...side_tanks
Compared to the 26 gallon tank they offer, this 24 gallon tank is 1 1/2 inches longer but the same width and height..
Posted by jharrell on 11/11/09 - 2:12 PM
#5
Looking at the pictures I would think the extra 1.5" is related to the recessed fill cap and pickup area that also extends out slightly, which makes it easier to fill while under the seat.
Not sure otherwise where the extra 2 gallons disappeared to, maybe it is also thicker?
Really like that it is white vs red.
Edited by jharrell on 11/11/09 - 7:54 PM
Posted by Joe Kriz on 11/11/09 - 2:18 PM
#6
Moeller 26 gallon tank
29.25"Lx19.00"Wx12.25"H
Moeller 24 gallon tank
29.25"Lx20.50"Wx12.25"H
The difference between the 2 tanks is the 24 gallon is 1 1/2 inches longer... and holds 2 gallons less.
The tank fill neck area also looks slightly different.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 11/11/09 - 2:26 PM
Posted by Phil T on 11/11/09 - 3:27 PM
#7
This is a new version of their tank. The neck is angled so refilling does not require manually moving the tank, a frequent comment/criticism of classic Montauk and 170 owners.
There has been discussions on adding a remote sender to Moeller brand above deck tanks.
Here is one thread
Posted by Johnhenry on 11/12/09 - 6:01 AM
#8
Fore and Aft Marine has this whitre tank on sale on their website-$195 plus shipping. Saving my pennies now to get one.
Posted by OGuidry on 11/12/09 - 8:23 AM
#9
Will this tank clear the opening into the tunnel that the fuel line runs in or will a new hole have to be cut for the fuel line?
Posted by ScooterCO on 11/12/09 - 9:37 AM
#10
My local West Marine was willing to price match the others at the 199.00 price.
I believe why it is rated at 2 gallons less is the fill neck is lower and angled as to in essence lower the over all height of the tank.
I am going to order one.
A new hole will be needed forward of the tank to install.
Good by Pate....
Posted by bottomfish on 11/12/09 - 11:04 AM
#11
If price is your deciding factor then that tank looks pretty slick. The only issue I find with these tanks is you have to drill a new fuel line hole and have to strap it down or use their hold down kit. I had the 28 gal tempo tank that went bad and is no longer made. That tank allowed you to use the original fuel line hole. Since I did not like the fact of punching in a new hole plus new hold down holes I opted to go a different route altogether. I purchased a 28 gallon Mirax aluminum tank. They have a 24 that fits under the seat for $350 or $400. I had them make one to my specs that fit under the seat (mine is raised 1.5"). I can fill it from outside and the rear of the tank is flush with the rear of the RPS. This gained me 4" of deck space without the loss of fuel capacity. Brian @ Mirax built it the way I wanted with brackets on the side to mount to the floor, (brackets hidden behind the RPS legs) pick up in the rear center, mechanical fuel guage at the rear and fill in the port rear so I can access it without getting in the boat. Mirax did this without any extra fees. $400 for any configuration I wanted. I had it powdercoated to match the desert tan. It looks exceptional and should outlast any plastic tank. So if price is not your deciding factor I would give Brian @ Mirax a call and discuss your options. Good guy to deal with.
(928) 680-6610 Just my .02
I will post pics on my project page tonight when I get home
Edited by bottomfish on 11/12/09 - 11:05 AM
Posted by Johnhenry on 11/12/09 - 11:55 AM
#12
Does anyone know if the fuel line hole would have to be moved on a 08 montauk 170? It is located on the starboard side of the console from the factory.
Posted by WhalerDan on 11/13/09 - 7:58 PM
#14
If I still had my Montauk and needed a new tank, I'd get two 12 gallon aluminum tanks. I like the fact that it can be moved, and I also like the fact that if you have a problem you can just try the second tank and 12 gallons is easier to lift than 24.
Posted by mattgeiger on 03/01/10 - 6:02 PM
#15
Has anyone got a pic of one of these in a classic Montauk? My 25 year old Mirax tanks are weeping around the fittings on warm days. Too corroded to mess with. I am waiting on a quote from Mirax for a pair of new 12s, but I don't want to rule out this new option from Moeller.
Posted by dprice on 03/01/10 - 6:45 PM
#16
My West Marine price matched the best internet deal I could find, mine is on order.
Posted by DWinter on 03/02/10 - 5:09 AM
#17
I have never had to add length to a fuel line to install the tank in question on an 08 17 Montauk. You will however want to pull the excess that is below decks. And no, this doesn't kink, strain or otherwise damage the fuel line if as long as you don't get all midieval with it.
Edited by DWinter on 03/02/10 - 5:11 AM
Posted by HarleyFXDL on 03/02/10 - 7:32 AM
#19
Not sure why the pics didn't show up
Posted by mattgeiger on 03/02/10 - 8:19 AM
#20
HarleyFXDL wrote:
Not sure why the pics didn't show up
Kevin - Something happened to the urls - anyway here's one of your pics. I see a notch on your tank.
http://www.whalercentral.com/images/p...boat10.jpg
Edited by Joe Kriz on 03/03/10 - 2:24 PM
Posted by HarleyFXDL on 03/02/10 - 12:51 PM
#21
I still have much to learn with computers Matt. The notch did make it easy to refuel.
Posted by Joe Kriz on 03/02/10 - 1:06 PM
#22
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Edited by Joe Kriz on 03/02/10 - 2:33 PM
Posted by mattgeiger on 03/03/10 - 5:16 AM
#23
Moeller sent me this when I inquired.
http://www.whalercentral.com/images/p...ite-24.jpg
Looks to me that with a couple of pieces of dri-dek or starboard, the fuel line can make the bend to the rigging tunnel. The boat pictured had previously had a Pate tank and already had a hole drilled aft of the original opening.
I'm on the fence. I could slather on some RTV silicone and call my current Mirax 12s "fixed". A new pair of Mirax D12s will run me $497 shipped. A custom made Mirax single to my spec (about 25 gal with a baffle) will run me $438 shipped. I also faxed a drawing to RDS Aluminum in FL and am awaiting a quote from them. If price were the same, I'd go with a Mirax single. However - to further add to the confusion, I read a bunch of articles and posts recently about the effects of ethanol on aluminum - more water = more corrosion. Also is was said that ethanol makes gasoline more electrically conductive, meaning more opportunity for corrosion. I know - not everything on the net is true, but it got my attention.
Edited by mattgeiger on 03/03/10 - 5:18 AM
Posted by dprice on 03/03/10 - 6:12 AM
#24
Matt;
My Pate tanks line goes through the deck forward of the tank. Why can't the fuel line for this tank be routed the same way? The last thing I want to do is drill any more holes.
Posted by 7seas on 11/09/12 - 12:33 PM
#25
That's a really nice fuel tank. Anyway you could send me the dimensions and a picture so i can have one built?
Thanks, Mike minibusch@gmail.com