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Hello Everyone!

We are now building replacement bow rails for all of the older Outrage Hulls. My rails are exact reproductions using 316 L stainless tubing and are designed to mount in the recessed areas of the gunwale. Let me know if anyone has any questions.

Thanks!

Raymond Martin
Martin Marine Design

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60...utrage.jpg

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How about the gunnel rails for an 18' Outrage?

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I don't know too many of us with the older style rails that wouldn't mind upgrading to the welded "newer" style to eliminate the loose fastners at each joint... Especially the base plate that loosens and allows the vertical rod to slip down and eventually dig into the fiberglass, letting water in.

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Actually there was an article in one of the posts about using stainless steel rivets as a permanent repair.

Is there anything else your company makes for the older Whalers?

Duf B)

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I used Ray for my rails, and swim platform. He did great job, and is a very nice man to work with. Check out the pictures on my page...

Freezing my ass off up here, cant wait for boating season B)

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Amen to that Jon!

Did that repair Duff, and it did tighten it up, but I'd still prefer the solid welds...

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Pj, I can make an exact reproduction of the side rails dimensionally as well as, modified to your specifications.



Yes, I agree. We do make all welded stainless bow rails for local customers. However, there are a number of factors that really drive the cost up. For one, shipping would be outrageous on a one piece all welded rail. We machine connectors so that the rail can be broken down and shipped UPS. If not for these connectors, the cost of the rail would likely double. Secondly, all welded rails are very labor intensive to build. For this reason, many boat manufacturers are getting their stainless rails made overseas. It takes many hours to fit the tubing because if there are any gaps, the weld will look awful. Finally, it takes many more hours to hand polish each joint. All this adds up to three times the cost of a rail that uses cast bases. The end product is worth it and we do it everyday. However, very few people are willing to pay the price for this work.



Duf,
Stainless steel fabrication accounts for roughly 25% of my business. We do all sorts of fabrication including anodized aluminum, such as t-tops, towers, custom seats, platforms, arches, ski towers, and hardtops. We also do custom upholstery. If you have an idea for a product for your boat that you cant seem to find anywhere else, I can probably build it for you.





Jon,
Thanks for all of the kind words! I just sent some rails to a guy in Alaska thanks to your recommendation. I really appreciate it and hope it warms up soon for you!


Raymond

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Ray, found a lot of Martin Marine sites and if you would, throw your .com address up, so i know its the correct one.
Jon, what can i tell you bro..........move south. Going to be in the 70's most of next week. I have to pick special nights just to throw a log on the fire to have a romantic evening and not be sweating.:D

Duf B)

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I bought some of Ray's bow rails for my 17 footer and evenl though they were not welded, his joint fittings seemed to be much tighter than the originals and had little or no rattle. He also knew that I really wanted to take my kids out to watch fireworks on the Fourth of July so he drove an hour to meet me halfway the weekend before to ensure I'd have time to get them installed. You don't get customer service like that very often.

I've since sold my Montauk and bought an 84 Outrage. Fortunately the rails are in good shape but I'm sure I'll get the bug for some stainless steel work before its over.

Mason
St. Simons Island, GA

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Great work on the rails.

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Can you give me an idea on what it would cost to build a bow rail for a 1980 22 outrage ?
Thanks ,
Mark
Agralawns@aol.com

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Mark - this thread was started in 2008. I suggest you email Ray for pricing. His email address is in his profile. (Scroll up to his post and click on his name. )