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Hello, I hope somebody could help me.

I've bought a Boston Whaler 21 Outrage 1994 with only 200 hours on hull and engines. Perfect condition always out of the water. When I'm looking on the internet the 21 Outrage is 2,30 meters wide. But this one is 2,68m wide. Also, the gas tank stainless is 550 liters, 100 more than normal (what I thought). There are genuine Marlin stickers on the center console left and right. Does anybody now something about this model?

Also there are some small mistakes on the boat I want to change. Possibly somebody could help me to get the parts.

1.) The manual is missing. Where can I get the genuine manual for the boat.
2.) There is a switch "Live well" which I could switch on and the light is burning but nothing happens. Is it for a pump? I couldn't find a pump for the live wells.
3.) I need the complete Boston Whaler graphics and also the Outrage 21 logo. I want only genuine parts, left and right.
4.) I want to put a FURUNO fishfinder on it but I couldn't find a hole for the through hull transducer/sounder. Is it only possible at the back? I don't like it.
5.) T-Top? Where could I get a T-top that fits perfectly?
6.) On my console are black wooden doors. I have seen a 1998 with white plastic doors which I would prefer. Could I get these still new?
7.) What is the exact weight of the boat without engines?
8.) Where could I get the rubber inserts for the drainage valves? The boats has got one left and right on the hull and two on the backside.
9.) In the storage space in the front behind the anchor space is a small drainage hole where I could look down outside the hull. Is this normal or must there be a rubber stick or something like that to prevent water coming in?
10.) I also want to put a new radio cover on her because the plexiglass is cloudy.

Regards,
Nico

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Janis @Magic Brush, 386-736-1142, has all the original decals.... It's not a "Marlin" edition, all Outrages in that era got the Marlins on the console, the Dauntless lines got Tunas...

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Thank you

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#4 thru hull transducer

Many smaller models did not have the special pad for installing a thru hull. While some don't like transom mounted transducers, many of the complaints are because it is not mounted correctly.

#5 T-top

Most owners buying a used whaler and want a t- top get one made by a local fabricator or a ready built one. Do a google search for your area and country to see who is available. A typical t-top costs $1,500-4,000 USD.

#6 doors

The doors originally were composite, not wood. There are several manufactures that make doors.

# 8 drainage flaps

I do not recall there being scupper covers on the side deck drains. There may have been on the rear drains. These flaps wear out and many owners turn them around to get more life out of them. To replace them, ping pong ball scupper covers are recommended. They look like this:
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/M...251875.htm

# 9 drain plug

There are standard drain plugs available for the drains in the anchor locker and fish lockers. I recall they take a 1" plug and insert from inside the boat. Look like this:
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/M...811436.htm

#10. plexiglass electronics box door

Try using a plexiglass cleaner/polish product. It can clean it up so a replacement is not needed. I use this brand:
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/M...810983.htm

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Hey phil, Darn good job with all that information.

one point of note . I had a 1997 20 outrage that did have floor drains through the side of the hull. you can not use the ball scupper there you would have to stay with the flapper. The good thing was the floor was so far above the water line water never tried to back up on the floor

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Have canged the scuppers to bigger once now with the new engine is the waterline 2" below them.JUHUU!!
Mine got wooden doors in the console It´s a 1994 model one of the first builted.I´ve seen some others for sale with wooden doors too.If I could get plastic in white would be happy.possible somebody has got an idea.also looking for a genuine boatcover console cover.

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There has been several different Boston Whalers over the years that are know as Outrage 21. A 1994 Outrage 21 was the following specifications:

LOA -- 20'-9" (6.30m)
Width -- 8'-6" (2.60m)
Draft -- 14" (0.36m)
Boat Weight -- 2500 pounds (1135 kg)
Max. Weight Cap. -- 3755 pounds (1705 kg)
Swamped Capacity -- 6000 pounds (2720 kg)
Max. Persons Cap. -- 11
Max. HP -- 300 (225 kW)
Min. HP -- 150 (110 kW)
Shaft Length -- 25" (optional 30")
Fuel Capacity -- 122 gallons (462 liters)

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I'm going to stick my neck way out here, without seeing any photos. YOU DON'T HAVE A BOSTON WHALER.

You have a MARLIN. This was the first name of Bob Dougherty's new line of boats after he left Boston Whaler in 1990. Besides the initial 17 and 18' models, he did later offer a 21' model, and of course, they look somewhat similar to his previous Whaler designs. They are constructed differently from Whalers. Shortly after that 21 came out, some additional money came into the company and they changed the name to Edgewater.

Assuming there is a photo of a 1994 Outrage 21 in the "Whaler Model" section here, check one out and see if it looks like your boat. It may not, as you have already determined the specs are not the same. And you are saying the boat has no Whaler or Outrage decals on it?

As I said, all of this is just a wild guess, but the Marilin 21 was a real boat, and quite nice, actually.

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Larry might be right. The Marlin 210 had the same beam:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listin...id=2201448

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That does not appear to be a Whaler in your personal page as others have guessed.
We will leave the personal page here for awhile so people can view what appears to be a very close resemblance of a Boston Whaler or, unless it is proven to actually be a Whaler which I doubt at this point.

Let's see if anyone can tell the difference. Too bad there is only one photo.

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After owned the boat nearly one year now I know more.It´s a 1994 Outrage 21
look here I´ve put a picture to my personal page:

See personal page link at the left under my name.

I´m in love with her even I got a Bertram31SF which got the nicest ass of the world ..LOL.

The marlin sticker was original on these BW21outrage models as i know now.

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Sure looks like a 1994-1997 Outrage 21 to me.

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That one photo is not enough.
I see differences in that photo that tells me it is different from a 1994 21' Boston Whaler.
The bow rail is not the same as shown in the 1994 catalog.

More photos would help.

Also, what is the HIN tag number on the stern of the boat?

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Yeah, the bow rail is different, shorter, but the gunwales, spring-line cleats, transom cutout, bow shape, floor locker, console, pedestal placement all looks exactly like an Outrage 21.

This boat may be a European market model so maybe the bow rails were different or perhaps custom made later.

A better photo would make it clearer.

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I cut the bowrail beacuse it´s to high for jigging .:-)

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Well, it's definitely a 90's 21 Outrage, I would know... There was a teak package available and a couple of the earlier built had them, although more than just the console doors would have been teak, the electronics box cover frame & chart flat trim would be also. It looks like there is a solid piece on that face, not original... And all starboard would be black like the rod holders under the gunnels.

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That explains the bow rail.
Yes, the teak wooden package was also available on other Outrages like the 1996 Outrage 17' II.

Billfish, can you give us the HIN number like I asked above?
That will prove the year for all of us.

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Stencil: B80203
BWCJA197G394

put it to members boat info too

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got parts list and manuals all these stuff if requ..

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would put more pic of the scupper changes a.s.o. later

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Thanks.
That confirms it was built in July of 1993 as a 1994 year model.

To answer one of your questions: by cutting down the bow rail, an original mooring cover will no longer fit properly.
You are most likely going to have to have one custom made.

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You won't have a livewell pump without the super leaning post, the side floor boxes are fishboxes which might/might not have an optional mascerator pumpout system.

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Sorry for the confusion. At the time of my post, there was no photo, but I also can see it's definitely a 21 Outrage.

If Whaler did call that model a "marlin" version, it is unusual, especially since Dougherty was making his Marlin brand nearby.

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Thank you Joe for the info with the genuine cover.custom made one is necessary.Didn´t thought about the high of the bowrail.

Hi Finnegen,
when I bought the Whaler I could see that there was marlin stickers on the left an right side of the center console.Now I know that all these boats had them so no Marlin model.normal BW 21 outrage.What´s the best material to make it from?

I´m still looking for the doors of the console in plastic and genuine centerconsole cover if somebody has a idea.

Thanx for your help.

also intrested in this BW leaning post:
http://media.channelblade.com/electro...092655.jpg

only the top without the stainlessparts will fix it to the two tubes which are still there.

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A Mills Canvas Mooring Cover usually does not go over the bow rail, but instead has slots for the bow rail stanchions. In that case, it wouldn't matter if the bow rail were shortened.

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Tom, I am not sure about that.

My 1996 Outrage 17' with the genuine Mills Mooring cover went over the bow rail.
See photo below.

I am not sure about the 1994 Outrage 21'.
The Mills web site shows a cover for 1992 to 1998 Mooring Cover w/bow rail
http://www.millscanvas.com/cfm/Produc...ductID=437
Doesn't say anything for one without a bow rail.
Unfortunately, Mills doesn't show a photo for that product.
Maybe someone else here can enlighten us if they have a Mills Mooring cover on that year and model.

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Draftsman,
The only thing I see as optional in the way of wood in the 1994 Boston Whaler catalog is "Teak Console Trim" @ $26
See the attachment below.

EDIT:
In the 1993 catalog does state that this "Teak Console Trim" includes Teak Doors.
This is only for the Outrage 21' models for this package.
The 1996 catalog states: "Console Doors, Electronics Box Frame, Gunnel Board Caps".

Apparently his model does have the "Teak Console Trim" package.
I would like to see photos of this option.
I have seen photos of a 1996 Outrage 17' II with the Teak option but not the 21' model.

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Depends on the boat, the mills mooring covers for the new models do go over the bow rail. At least the one for the Nantucket/Outrage does

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Yeah well, sometimes Marketing was on it, sometimes not... (Teak Pkg). I do remember a gunnel board set being proto-typed, but don't recall ever seeing one installed...
The T-top was done by Sunshine Welding out of Canaveral I believe, and I'm pretty sure they still do them. There are (4) 1/2" plates already in the deck for the tops' installation and are shown on the wood locating diagram for the boat.
The scuppers in the back are probably Marine East , we were proto-ing a lot of parts with them back then, maybe Perko...

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Tom, (draftsman) Is this the teak package you are referring to? I found this 24 Outrage with teak on the console and gunwales recently and was wondering if it was OEM or not.

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Yeah, that's factory, and a pretty sweet deal ta-boot! Lots of options and add-on's there, they were probably originally worth that price alone.... That thing was stolen...

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Billfish,

I put the photos you sent me in your personal page so everyone can see them.

I can see the console side door and electronics box frame is wood painted black.
However, I haven't seen the under gunwale rod holders made of wood for these years and the catalog does not mention these being made of wood. All that I have seen are starboard versions.
Are you positive the under gunwale rod holders are wood?