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1999 Boston Whaler Outrage 28
apogee
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Posted on 05/03/16 - 8:52 PM
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For the life of me I cannot find the specs for this boat. I would like to re power and I do not know the maximum hp. Does it have one fuel tank or two? what is the weight not counting engines or fuel? How big is the water tank? How big are the berths? Beam? Overall length? Does it have a stove?. I have been on the web for hours and cannot find any reliable information. Can anybody point me in the right direction please... Yes I used the search feature on this site and others. It is like this model does not exist. What is the average fuel economy?


(EDIT: changed title from Outrage 280 to Outrage 28' as there was no Outrage 280 in those years. No wonder you were having problems finding any info.)


Edited by Joe Kriz on 05/05/16 - 7:28 PM
 
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I cannot post pictures but love to research. I got this spec sheet in just a few minutes. The 1999 28' Whaler Outrage also went by the name of 290 Outrage (per article). The website is: www.unitedyacht.com/boston-whaler-28-...0-outrage/

Good luck....takes up to 500hp.

Garris


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If you visit www.whalerparts.com and select 1999 Models, you will see a listing for the Outrage 280. It was produced from at least 1999 through 2001. The Outrage 290 was introduced as a 2002 model

Boston Whaler's Owners Resource page lists the Outrage 280 starting in 2000.

http://www.bostonwhaler.com/page.aspx.../page.aspx

There are several parts diagrams available. It appears there is a single fuel tank located on the centerline.

There is one for sale in CA:
http://boats.oodle.com/view/28-boston...-diego-ca/


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Whaler isn't doing anyone any favors here by calling a boat something that was never made in the past.

There was never a 280 Outrage in any Boston Whaler catalogs in the past.

The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of is trying to rename something that was never made back then.
How do you change all those older catalogs and facts? And names on the sides of the boats?
Can't do it.

Outrage 28', 1999-2001
Outrage 290, 2002- ?
Outrage 280, 2016 (new)

Again, there never was an Outrage 280 in any Boston Whaler catalogs in the past.

Boston Whaler has just announced a new Outrage 280 for 2016 in this years catalog.
http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Page.aspx...trage.aspx

 
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apogee wrote:
1999 Outrage 28'
For the life of me I cannot find the specs for this boat.


Anyone with a 1999 Boston Whaler catalog could give you this info if you still need it after the advice above.

 
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http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l17...ncnl0w.png


Thanks, Duane
 
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Joe Kriz wrote:
apogee wrote:
1999 Outrage 28'
For the life of me I cannot find the specs for this boat.


Anyone with a 1999 Boston Whaler catalog could give you this info if you still need it after the advice above.

All of you are great. What a resource and Joe you are the Guru. One of the replies, sent me to the Boston Whaler 28 Outrage;290 Outrage site with previous years listed and it had the max HP listed as 500HP. Then I went to the catalog page that list's the 28 Outrage max HP as 600 HP! A 100HP difference. If the boat is rated for 500HP and I put 600HP on it, the insurance companies get sideways. Very costly mistake. Am I interpreting this information correctly? What do you say, which one is correct? My vessel is a 1999 Boston Whaler outrage 28'................... What is it's maximum horsepower?


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apogee,

I do not trust any 3rd party publications.
If you look in the Boston Whaler catalogs, 2002 shows the Outrage 290 as having 600hp max.
That link above to united yacht whatever, shows incorrect information.
That is too bad and very pitiful. Why does any bother posting incorrect information?

Bottom line, I would go by the published 1999 Boston Whaler catalog. Again, NO 3rd party misinformation.
It is written and it is factual and confirmed back then in the Whaler catalogs.
See portholes2 posts above with the link.
600hp is shown in the catalog and that is what I would go by.

I just sold a 1999 Boston Whaler catalog.
If you can find one, you would have proof to show any insurance company.


Edited by Joe Kriz on 05/10/16 - 8:24 PM
 
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Joe Kriz wrote:
apogee,

I do not trust any 3rd party publications.
If you look in the Boston Whaler catalogs, 2002 shows the Outrage 290 as having 600hp max.
That link above to united yacht whatever, shows incorrect information.
That is too bad and very pitiful. Why does any bother posting incorrect information?

Bottom line, I would go by the published 1999 Boston Whaler catalog. Again, NO 3rd party misinformation.
It is written and it is factual and confirmed back then in the Whaler catalogs.
See portholes2 posts above with the link.
600hp is shown in the catalog and that is what I would go by.

I just sold a 1999 Boston Whaler catalog.
If you can find one, you would have proof to show any insurance company.


Thanks for the reply Joe,
I think we are on the same track. It seems like a big boat for a 500HP Max. Even my 2002 BWO 230 is rated for 300HP....Twin 300's will be sweet.......

 
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Joe Kriz wrote:

Bottom line, I would go by the published 1999 Boston Whaler catalog. Again, NO 3rd party misinformation.
It is written and it is factual and confirmed back then in the Whaler catalogs.
See portholes2 posts above with the link.



To a point. The catalog page above lists my boat, a 1999 21 Outragea as having a hull weight of 2300.
That is an error and the correct weight is 3000.


Thanks, Duane
 
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porthole2 wrote:
To a point. The catalog page above lists my boat, a 1999 21 Outragea as having a hull weight of 2300.
That is an error and the correct weight is 3000.

I can see where you might get that but I wouldn't bet on it.

Boston Whaler catalog weights:
1997 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1998 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1999 Outrage 21 = 2300 pounds
2000 Outrage 21 = 3000 pounds

However, if you look in the 2000 year catalog, ALL the Outrage models gained weight from the prior years models.
We would have to ask Boston Whaler what changed and why the extra weight for 2000 and beyond.
NOTE: in 2002, they inserted and corrected ALL the weights on the rear of catalog which appears to be the same weights in the 2000 and 2001 catalogs.

Here is the caption from the 2002 catalog only:
"NOTE: These weight specifications supersede those appearing on inside pages" (again, 2002 catalog only)

Would be interesting to see a 2002 catalog that possibly did not get the pasted on weight correction list.
Apparently they caught this mistake before shipping out the catalogs but didn't warrant reprinting the entire catalog run.

At any rate, I don't think Boston Whaler made a mistake on the 600hp for the Outrage 28' models as they list that in all the catalogs for that model that I can see.

 
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Joe Kriz wrote:
I can see where you might get that but I wouldn't bet on it.

Boston Whaler catalog weights:
1997 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1998 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1999 Outrage 21 = 2300 pounds
2000 Outrage 21 = 3000 pounds

However, if you look in the 2000 year catalog, ALL the Outrage models gained weight from the prior years models.
We would have to ask Boston Whaler what changed and why the extra weight for 2000 and beyond.
NOTE: in 2002, they inserted and corrected ALL the weights on the rear of catalog which appears to be the same weights in the 2000 and 2001 catalogs.


You left a model year out that is very specific to my point.

2001 Outrage 21 = 3000 pounds

!999, 2000 & 2001 21 Outrage's are the same boat, same specs. That is the unique small Outrage in that it has a head in the bigger then normal console.

The 1999 brochure specs are printed incorrectly.

I'll take the bet since I have a 1999 21 Outrage :-)


Thanks, Duane
 
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Duane,
I didn't miss the 2001.
I mention it 2 times in that post.

Bottom line:
The Outrage 21 seemed to have gained weight in the Boston Whaler catalogs from model 2000 and beyond which includes 2001.
(maybe the 1999 year as you mention)

I agree that something is not right but only Whaler can tell us why the boat gained weight.

I personally think they added something that made it weigh more but that would just be a guess.

Here would be just another guess:

1993 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1994 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1995 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1996 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1997 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1998 Outrage 21 = 2500 pounds
1999 Outrage 21 = 3000 pounds (possible correction)
2000 Outrage 21 = 3000 pounds

Are the earlier 21' models the same as the 1999 and later?
Or did something change in 1999? or 2000?

EDIT:
Upon a little more research of this model.
In 1999, there was a change. The boat lost 2 inches in length down to 21' 7".
The 1998 and earlier models were 21' 9" in length.
It also appears that the console changed for the 1999 year. Not positive if it was all 1999 year models or a mid year change. So it might have been a transition year for consoles and/or the length of the hull from 1998 and earlier.
The hull change and the console change appears is why the weight went from 2500 pounds to 3000 pounds.
It could be that something is different with the 1999 year model or the catalog is wrong with the listed weight of 2300 pounds which doesn't match the earlier or later models.

1998 Outrage 21' console = http://www.bostonwhaler.com/boat_grap...2929PM.pdf
1999 Outrage 21' console = http://www.bostonwhaler.com/boat_grap...3150PM.pdf
NOTE: the above drawings on the Boston Whaler website confirm the name "21' OUTRAGE" and nothing different even though they are listed under another category on their website. (this also includes the name of the Outrage 28' for the original poster.)


Edited by Joe Kriz on 05/13/16 - 3:29 PM
 
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