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1973 Montauk hull number ending in 0473.
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| cz4me |
Posted on 10/27/14 - 12:02 PM
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I just joined the group not too long ago. I have a 1973 Montauk with stencil number 3A7281 and hull number ending in 0473. The boat is in a shop getting the trailer worked on. Should have it back tomorrow or the next day. I believe this would make my Montauk the oldest one on the Montauk list. Is that true? It is in fairly good shape. I saw on the list where the other ones listed are verified. How do you get it verified?
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 10/27/14 - 12:12 PM
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To find out what model it was when it left the factory, you would need to talk to Boston Whaler and give them your stencil number from the hull.
You could also show us a photo of what your boat looks like today.
If it is a Montauk, then it should look like these and have the factory fiberglass console and factory seat.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=14
Always looking for older examples of any of the models.
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| cz4me |
Posted on 10/27/14 - 12:29 PM
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So I am assuming I can post photos of my boat on my personal page. If so, I will do that when I get it back from the shop. I tool a pic in the sunlight and did not get the whole hull number but I have most of it. I will get it all when I post pics. Mine looks like the 1974 that was posted. But my hull number says it is a 1973. Mine has both handrails and the fiberglass console and teak doors and seats. I just replaced the seat with one just like the old one. I also added a Bimini top. I will post pics as soon as I get my boat back. Thanks The motor is an 85 HP Johnson 1981 which I hope to replace with a Yamaha F70 hp in the future.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 10/27/14 - 12:55 PM
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You could also just put a link here to your photos you have somewhere else on the Internet like photobucket, etc.
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Posted on 10/29/14 - 2:43 PM
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Here is the info and some pics of my Whaler. From what I can tell it is a 1973 Boston Whaler Montauk made in April of 1973. If anyone knows different please tell me. I don't really care if it is old as long as I have the info right on my Whaler. It is in fairly good shape for as old as it is. I would like to get it registered on this page.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles.php?cat_id=7&article_id=17
Who does that?
http://chagres.com/BWM73A.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73B.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73C.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73D.jpg
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http://chagres.com/BWM73F.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73G.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73H.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73I.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73J.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73K.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73L.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73M.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73N.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73O.jpg
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 10/29/14 - 3:42 PM
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Looks like the numbers are:
BWCA58450473
3A7281
I list all the boats on that page that are verified by Boston Whaler.
See the first boats made in 1973:
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=17
You would need to have your numbers verified by Boston Whaler to make positively sure it left the factory on 0473 as Montauk.
I would then be happy to add your boat on the Montauk list.
If it did not leave the factory as a Montauk, then someone added the console and RPS at a later date. Could have even been a dealer but we don't know unless you have more paperwork or info.
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| cz4me |
Posted on 10/29/14 - 3:47 PM
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OK I went to the Boston Whaler home page and I don't see anywhere to contact C. Bennett at Boston Whaler. Can someone tell me how this is done? Thanks All I see is a ready made form to contact for other purposes.
http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Page.aspx/pageId/29411/Countries/''/Contact-Us.aspx
>>>For specific questions about your Boston Whaler boat, please call 1-877-294-5645. This toll free system is answered 8:00 am - 5:00 pm Eastern, Monday through Friday.<<<
Do I call this number to get in touch with C. Bennett?
Thanks
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| cz4me |
Posted on 10/29/14 - 3:59 PM
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I can see where someone might have made it into a Montauk but they sure went through a lot of work to do it. I sure would like to prove one way or the other. The only ID number on the Certificate of Title is the Stencil number.
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| MG56 |
Posted on 10/30/14 - 3:04 AM
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cz4me wrote:
OK I went to the Boston Whaler home page and I don't see anywhere to contact C. Bennett at Boston Whaler. Can someone tell me how this is done? Thanks All I see is a ready made form to contact for other purposes.
http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Page.aspx/pageId/29411/Countries/''/Contact-Us.aspx
>>>For specific questions about your Boston Whaler boat, please call 1-877-294-5645. This toll free system is answered 8:00 am - 5:00 pm Eastern, Monday through Friday.<<<
Do I call this number to get in touch with C. Bennett?
Thanks
You can call them but it might be easier to email Chuck >>> cbennett@whaler.com
That sure looks like a Montauk to me.
http://chagres.com/BWM73A.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73B.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73C.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73D.jpg
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http://chagres.com/BWM73F.jpg
http://chagres.com/BWM73G.jpg
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| cz4me |
Posted on 10/30/14 - 6:24 AM
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Below is Chuck Bennet's reply to my email this morning.
Hi Mr. Barkema,
According to our shipping records; serial number 3A7281 was built in our old Rockland, MA factory as a 16'7" Montauk and was originally shipped out to High & Dry Marina, Inc., in Clearwater, FL, on 4/12/73.
This was the first year of the Montauk.
Regards,
Chuck Bennett
Boston Whaler, Inc.
(877) 294-5645
cbennett@whaler.com
From: Heraldino Barkema (email removed as it is in profile)
To: "cbennett@whaler.com" <cbennett@whaler.com>
Date: 10/30/2014 08:38 AM
Subject: 1973 Whaler
Hello Mr. Bennett
I just purchased a 1973 Boston Whaler that is in pretty good shape. The people at Whaler Central said I should contact you to find out what kind of Whaler my boat was when it was sold. It is 16'7". and looks like a Montauk. Below is the Stencil number and the HIN number.
Stencil number is 3A7281
HIN number is BWCA58450473
Any info you can give me on this boat would be very much appreciated.
Thank you
Heraldino Barkema
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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| MG56 |
Posted on 10/30/14 - 7:19 AM
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CZ
I doubt most people have to verify their model to the stencil & HIN numbers to register a boat here. The reason you had to is your boat is so rare. Right now you have the earliest Montauk verified to exist today.
You should email Chuck back and ask him how many Montauks were made before your stencil/HIN. All he has to do is open the ledger and count how many were made above your boat. I bet I have more fingers one hand.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 10/30/14 - 3:50 PM
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cz4,
Congratulations. It looks like you have the oldest factory Montauk left in existence as far as our lists goes.
Many of these older Montauks I'm sure no longer exist or survived through the years remaining a Montauk. Many today might be what Whaler calls a "Custom" model if the original interior is no longer present.
Had your Montauk been newer, I would have added it to that list without any problems. As MB56 mentions above though, sometimes the older models need positive verification from Boston Whaler to be authenticated.
Otherwise we would probably have 50 or 60 1961 and 1963 Montauks on that list which, even though they were never made, because many people think that is what they own.
I have been keeping track of Montauk information for many years.
Ever since I purchased mine back in 1988. Sometimes different info, parts, etc., comes to our attention.
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| cz4me |
Posted on 10/31/14 - 6:27 AM
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Chuck Bennett's reply's to my last 2 emails.
According to our records, the first Montauk was hull # 3A6757. This was built on 2/2/73.
Regards,
Chuck Bennett
Boston Whaler, Inc.
(877) 294-5645
cbennett@whaler.com
I counted 13 were built before your boat.
Regards,
Chuck Bennett
Boston Whaler, Inc.
(877) 294-5645
cbennett@whaler.com
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| cz4me |
Posted on 10/31/14 - 9:43 AM
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Here is an example of what you said. A 1962 Boston Whaler Montauk for sale.
http://treasure.craigslist.org/boa/4731800493.html
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Posted on 11/06/14 - 10:44 AM
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I see in the last two photographs holes in the thwarts and forward bulkhead and some gelcoat ghosting. I will speculate that a forward casting platform was installed at one point, which would indicate this boat left Rockland, MA factory as a Montauk II model.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 11/06/14 - 12:43 PM
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1975 is the first year the bow platform shows up in the catalogs or prices lists that I can find for the Montauk.
I have seen Montauk II reference in the past but cannot find it now.
Can anyone tell us what catalog and what page this is listed?
Below is some info from the 1975 price lists and accessories.
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| cz4me |
Posted on 11/06/14 - 2:19 PM
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I read somewhere that the difference between the Montauk I and the Montauk II is that the Montauk II came with handrails. I wish I could find that article. I'm talking 1973 Montauk here.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 11/06/14 - 2:55 PM
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cz4,
Unfortunately those are not genuine Boston Whaler documents.
I am looking for genuine Boston Whaler documents that show Montauk II.
My attachment above from 1975 is from a genuine Boston Whaler document.
Not something someone made up.
Can anyone point us to a genuine Boston Whaler document that shows a Montauk II ?
And genuine documentation that states what makes a Montauk I and/or a Montauk II ?
The Cohasset I and II is well documented in the Whaler catalogs and here on our site we show these models.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...lbum_id=31
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 11/06/14 - 3:18 PM
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I knew I had seen a reference to Montauk II.
They don't show the genuine document on Jim's site that I can see.
However we have that Packing List in our downloads section here:
http://www.whalercentral.com/download...p?cat_id=5
Confusing on some items like the 1973 Montauk that were never even listed in the 1973 Boston Whaler catalog.
If Boston Whaler didn't mention it left the factory as a II model, then most likely it wasn't, unless they didn't record that information during that timeframe.
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| cz4me |
Posted on 11/06/14 - 3:30 PM
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Mine looks like it had the bow platform so if anyone has a good pic of the bow platform I would like to eventually put one on my boat.
I thank you all for all your help.
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