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"My Girl's" Refit
Finnegan	#61  Posted on 09/10/08 - 2:27 PM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	I recently bought 1975 model year hull #750, manufactured in Oct 1974, probably the best condition example of this model in the world. It's all original, one owner, stored indoors, unused for 25 years with only 150 freshwater hours of total use on it before then. It needs no restoration work, except for the red rubrail insert replacement, which was vandalized by someone during storage. Original gelcoat is still glossy, even the bottom with no paint does not have a mark on it. It was stored on a keel roller trailer, which I now have for sale. Also selling the twin Johnson 70's power, since they are mis-matched in year, but otherwise practically brand new. An 83 year old client sold it to me, who bought it new in Northern WI, then barely used it, then packed it away. Since the boat is factory original, un-modified, I can answer any questions you guys may have.
ritzyrags	#62  Posted on 09/10/08 - 2:34 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1003 Comments: 36 Joined: 06/18/08	Hello Finnegan, It is truly unfortunate that you are living so far. I would have presently jumped in the Tahoe and drove directly to have a look. I am nevertheless interested to hear and see more of this unit. Photos If you do have them? My EMAil is ritzy@oberon.ark.com Dont lie Dont Cheat And dont give up..
Finnegan	#63  Posted on 09/10/08 - 2:53 PM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	Ritzy - I am surprised you have not ordered a length of the special order red rubrail insert for your boat. You should! See Whaler Parts for Sale section.
ritzyrags	#64  Posted on 09/10/08 - 3:12 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1003 Comments: 36 Joined: 06/18/08	Yes Finnegan, I was made aware of this a while back. My unit had a black one on and Chuck Bennet help me acquire a new replacement for me.A black one. If not I would have been on this one like cold on Ice. Dont lie Dont Cheat And dont give up..
Blue_Northern	#65  Posted on 09/11/08 - 6:40 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 532 Comments: 5 Joined: 09/04/07	Finnegan - If you do not mind us asking -- what did you have to invest to buy her? I looked at several that claimed to be original owner nice boats but they were quite expensive and not as represented. Rob 1973 Outrage/Lo-Pro Conversion
Finnegan	#66  Posted on 09/11/08 - 5:05 PM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	I'd rather not talk price, but I will say that I am not a "fixer-upper special" type person. Most of my Whalers have been purchased new. I believe you really can't pay too much for a used classic Whaler if you want a showpiece boat, like I do. The HUGE amount of time and money involved in restoring a "beater" is just not worth it, and most don't have the skills needed to do it right, including myself. Finding orignal resoration parts can be time consuming or impossible, and then, when you are all done, you still have a boat with a bad history, where a potential buyer has to take a flyer on how good the hidden restoration work was, decreasing it's value. For example, a painted hull, as beautiful as it may look, tells you the boat was in bad shape at one time. No thanks. 99% of the people on the web will disagree with me, and refuse to pay top dollar for an all original, non-restored, super well kept Whaler, but I think that's the best deal you can get, if you can find one. You have to be prepared to move FAST. I am not talking about great boats that just need cosmetic cleaning and polishing, and teak re-finishing. Those can be a great find also, and fun to clean up. The other thing that I think destroys the value of a classic Whaler is a bunch of "home-made" and "home designed" changes, or a bunch of aftermarket components. Unless the person has exceptional design skills, they only have value to the person that does them, nobody else. Keep your Whalers "classic and original". As for this 19 Outrage I bought (which I need like a hole in the head), I had a chance to see it first, and fully check it out. Remember, he is client, and we have insured this boat since it was bougth new, so I knew it's history (or lack of history!). Underneath 28 years of accumulated dirt, it was a new boat, and basically just needed a bath. The owner knew what he wanted, and I paid it, no beating him up on price, just like he does with me, when I send him a bill for his insurance.
ritzyrags	#67  Posted on 09/11/08 - 5:20 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1003 Comments: 36 Joined: 06/18/08	Well, I think that your unit may prove to be a great source of original classic details when called upon. So what's next Finnegan? Since having admitted that you have little use for the older lady, What are your intentions? Spit and polish or profit? Dont lie Dont Cheat And dont give up..
Jeff	#68  Posted on 09/11/08 - 5:29 PM
Member Posts: 1987 Comments: 34 Joined: 04/02/05	I have to agree with Larry that a true OEM Original showroom Whaler can be "Worth it's weight in gold." There is nothing like having a prefect Whaler that looks like it did from the factory and there is nothing that needs to be done to it. Our Old Montauk was like that. A time piece, and I kick myself for letting that boat go outside of the family. I should have sold my 22 Outrage to keep it in the family. I kick myself daily for that. Everyone fawned over the boat and everyone always said it was a boat should be in Larry's fleet (especially with the tower of power on the stern). When I listed the boat for my father I can not tell you how many rude people I met. I was told I many many times through email and on the phone that I was @#%*'n crazy to think I would get 12.5k for a 22 year old Montauk and Motor no matter the condition. Also I was an @'hole for not considering offers. Whatever. The first person to look at the boat in person could not believe the condition and bought it right there for full asking price. He had looked at many trashed, miskept, and rough boats and knew when he saw our boat there was no question it was worth it. 1993 23' Walkaround Whaler Drive
sraab928	#69  Posted on 09/11/08 - 5:36 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	I don't know how you guys find these treasures.... every classic I go look at ...well looks like what I have right now...lol. I have asked Larry if he would part with her... but no such luck... As you say you really cant put a price on a new 1975 Whaler. Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
Finnegan	#70  Posted on 09/11/08 - 9:43 PM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	Ritzy - Yes, my original intention was enjoy the satisfaction of owning a basically brand new 33 year old boat, and also have a new project, bringing it up to yacht quality will some of my "signature" improvements that I have done on my other Whalers. Then, I was thinking I might sell it. But as you know, these classic Whalers grow on you like a new Golden Receiver puppy, and quickly get to be part of the family......... So who knows what I will do with it. As for finding a great old Whaler, I'm convinced it's just dumb luck, or at best being in the right place at the right time, or just happening to know the right person, which was my case with this 19. I am convinced that many of the best used Whalers never make it to the open market, being traded among friends and family. Four years ago I bought my ribside 21 from a complete stranger 1000 miles away, (who I now know to be a first class guy who accurately and honestly described the boat he was selling) while browsing ContinuousWave Marketplace on a Good Friday afternoon. I owned the boat at full asking price within 3 hours of the ad first appearing. Once again, just dumb luck that I was sitting at my computer at the time. If I had waited even a few more hours, someone else would have gotten the boat. I"ll post a few photos when I get a chance.
ritzyrags	#71  Posted on 09/12/08 - 7:43 AM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1003 Comments: 36 Joined: 06/18/08	Well, Just got in and read your message Larry. My first impression was to give your first message to the thread a double take. I was at a bit of a loss to get the contributing point.. to the usual step by loving step in the works to make my latest project shine like new again. You will fully understand having done this yourself that; not only will the results be positively rewarding but more importantly, all the careful steps done in a timely and loving manner will have a lasting learning curve here. I can now share with you that when I did adopt My Girl for a sum that some may think a bit high in your locales; The best looking part of the boat was the hull.Now having progressed in the refit,I just realized after looking.. that it is now the worst looking part of the unit.Talk about progressing. Now that's exciting. What was unclear and now understood was your excitement at finding this true treasure.. This is a first for me as I had never heard of the possibility of a "mint" nineteen footer before. What would be the stenciled number on the front port fender? You must promise us all here to share some good photos.I for one can't wait to see them. You have my sincere congratulations on your unique find. Dont lie Dont Cheat And dont give up..
Jeff	#72  Posted on 09/12/08 - 8:29 AM
Member Posts: 1987 Comments: 34 Joined: 04/02/05	Scott, One thing that helps is location. Here in the Great Lakes you are able to find boats that have never seen salt and spend most of their lives under cover or in storage. I have to say as cool as a perfect Whaler is I still enjoy projects and they both have their time and place. After working on my 22 Outrage I gained a lot of respect for those who take on a project boat. And a lot more respect for those who that take on a complete rebuild of a boat. I know that in the end there is more money invested on restoring a boat than if you had found a perfect boat in the beginning. That said, projects are a lot more about the journey and the self gratification. Edited by Jeff on 09/13/08 - 7:26 PM 1993 23' Walkaround Whaler Drive
Blue_Northern	#73  Posted on 09/12/08 - 8:39 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 532 Comments: 5 Joined: 09/04/07	Jeff - you got it right. I know I will never see my money out of the outrage project. I am building the perfect boat for me and the experience is what I am enjoying. I have taken a broken down old girl and plan to have one of the finest examples of a restored Whaler you can find. There will be some tasteful modifications but at the end of the day it is my girl. I am returning life to a tired old unit and I think she will be kind to me for years to come. Good Karma! Rob 1973 Outrage/Lo-Pro Conversion
womms	#74  Posted on 09/13/08 - 11:18 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 122 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/06/08	Finnegan- Congrats on your recent find; I can see you are very proud of yourself. This is fantastic...I have heard of Whaler snobs, classic Whaler snobs, and now mint-condition classic Whaler snobs. Try not to look too far down your nose at us poor people piloting classics with a few dings in them. Remember, Outrages were made to fish, not to sit in a barn. I am only having fun, but you have to keep in mind that most people buy Boston Whalers to use and enjoy, not for show. Once again, congratulations. She is beautiful. Michael 1989 Outrage 22' Whaler Drive, 2014 Honda 250
ritzyrags	#75  Posted on 09/13/08 - 1:47 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1003 Comments: 36 Joined: 06/18/08	Hey Guys, I am glad that some of you have picked up the slack on this one since I have been busy at work in mechanical repairs. I will be carrying on with my favorite project as soon as I can. PS-I think that those hulls new and older drives me bananas.. More later. Dont lie Dont Cheat And dont give up..
Derwd24	#76  Posted on 09/13/08 - 3:55 PM
Member Posts: 1607 Comments: 9 Joined: 05/09/07	Good Karma, I like that, well said Rob! Keep up the good work guys, it's been great following all your progress... Dave - 1983 Outrage 22
ritzyrags	#77  Posted on 11/20/08 - 4:13 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1003 Comments: 36 Joined: 06/18/08	Glad to see that the door is open again. I will be making some efforts in moving some photos around and also to create my personal page. It is good to see all of you again. Dont lie Dont Cheat And dont give up..
scrimshaw	#78  Posted on 11/20/08 - 4:23 PM
Member Posts: 437 Comments: 0 Joined: 09/09/07	Serge,good to see the post from you, it's been awhile ! I understand your absence ! Lets all forget that and once again return to the fun of this site . I say lets make this off season enjoyable somehow for everyone , Jim
ritzyrags	#79  Posted on 11/22/08 - 3:54 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1003 Comments: 36 Joined: 06/18/08	Thanks Buddy, Well Yes, I am looking at putting on some electronics on My Girl as the existing electricals are vintage. I will be looking for the usuals as in vhf/ gps and also an adequate breaker panel circuit board. Rummaging through the bottom of discard boxes some of you may come across salvageable parts. Give me a heads up. Can You spell Bargain? Dont lie Dont Cheat And dont give up..
ritzyrags	#80  Posted on 08/06/09 - 11:25 AM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1003 Comments: 36 Joined: 06/18/08	Yes; Back on the project again. It is true that I have been busy at resurfacing the deckings for the last two weeks. The attentive and conscientious dremelling have been done. Filling and sanding to be faired and sanded again to prepare the surfaces for priming today. Photos will be posted to my project place. Now, I wonder if Scott and Rob have managed to survive all the changes and new formatting effectuated to their pages??? Could this be the end of the three Amigos??? Dont lie Dont Cheat And dont give up..