|
"My Girl's" Refit
|
| ioptfm |
Posted on 08/28/08 - 6:23 PM
|
Member
Personal Page
Posts: 1533
Comments:
3
Joined: 10/28/06
|
I'd like to know more about the application also
Tom
1979 Sport 15' |
| |
|
|
| ritzyrags |
Posted on 08/28/08 - 6:23 PM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1003
Comments:
36
Joined: 06/18/08
|
All right Rob, I will be here.
Yes Dave,This "solution" to renewing your Whaler appearance does involve a three part mix.The clear gel coat additive,the gel coat of your choice and the usual MEKP hardener which will set your gel. This is a Polyester resin mix totally familiar with your traditional structures.
You can purchase the gel resin of your choice or go with Spectrum with a very closely matched color to your needs.I did find their products to be of excellent quality and if you are doing specific areas of repairs, that is the way that I would go.
If on the other hand you are planning a whole structure re gel, you may consider acquiring a premium quality local gel, have it tinted to your specification at your favorite paint store and with the clear gel coat additive redo your areas.The fact is the whole area will be redone and all color matching.The clear gel is traditionally a 1/1 ratio but I did enjoy a 55 to 60% ratio better.
The MEKP will be proportional to the whole volume of the quantity.
I like to remind myself when working with precise quantities; when in doubt leave it out or ...wait to make sure.
Dont lie
Dont Cheat
And dont give up.. |
| |
|
|
| Blue_Northern |
Posted on 08/29/08 - 8:20 AM
|
Member
Personal Page
Project Albums
Posts: 532
Comments:
5
Joined: 09/04/07
|
Hardener for the "whole" quantity? I would have been trying to figure that on out.
Rob
1973 Outrage/Lo-Pro Conversion |
| |
|
|
| ritzyrags |
Posted on 08/29/08 - 8:02 PM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1003
Comments:
36
Joined: 06/18/08
|
Friday Aug 29th.
Just got in from giving the last coat of gel to the cap.
This is the completion of phase 1.
I can honestly say that I am not totally displeased with the results.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6226/olympusphotos439gr3.jpg
I have thoroughly cleaned and blown dry every inches of the surfaces to be sprayed prior to giving the last coat.
I have elected not to use the Styrene wax even though I had it on hand. I will keep it for phase three..The Hull.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2763/olympusphotos445jj7.jpg
I am showing a view of both sides to tell the tale of the complete (already) glossiness of the worked areas.
I think that the sanding and buffing will be much easier.
I will be welcoming your comments and inquiries.
I have talked with Jim and enjoyed my short call with him today.Nice to hear some of the news from the Atlantic side.
More later
Edited by Joe Kriz on 12/01/08 - 12:11 PM
Dont lie
Dont Cheat
And dont give up.. |
| |
|
|
| sraab928 |
Posted on 09/04/08 - 6:58 AM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1282
Comments:
13
Joined: 12/27/05
|
Serge - I was looking at your cap and noticed that the inside is completely different than mine - Did you cut it to remove the pockets or did it come that way?
Mine looks like this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/sraab928/1973%20Boston%20Whaler%2019%20Outrage/S6001167.jpg
Edited by Joe Kriz on 12/01/08 - 12:11 PM
Scott
1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8 |
| |
|
|
| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/04/08 - 1:18 PM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1003
Comments:
36
Joined: 06/18/08
|
Scott,
You have a good eye for details, it is a different style of gunwale lip sections.
As you can see my model has a 3 1/2" inboard lip that border the inside of the cap.
[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum_3/useralbum_13/classicconsole_t1.jpg[/img]
I had some issue about having the reinforcement under the lip coming unfastened here and there.For this, I used a two part epoxy clear formula to correct this problem.I also did find out the hard way that I should have been wearing my respirator even for a not so smelly epoxy application..
Similar to your model, I have a thin slat of teak bordering the edges. You can see that mine curves down all the way to the floor.
To remedy what I am perceiving to be excessive flex due to lack of structural strength ,I am planning to beef up the edge of the lip by installing on both sides a large 3 1/2" border of Mahogany curving all the way to the deck.
I am also considering putting a similar wood garnishing atop of the gunwales for similar reasons.
The deck looked weather beaten in this way when I took possession of the hull, and this from having sat for a long while at a boat yard.
My girl sat for a good spell waiting to be sold.My next phase will be to revamp the decking.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3334/olympusphotos317rf4.jpg
In the photo that you sent I can see your unit number up front on the starboard side.Too far to read clearly but still noticeable.
My number is at the same location but on the port side.I have included a photo and you can see that this model is 000771.
I would be curious to have a data on where would be the preceding and following hull numbers be.
Are the hulls still active?
The reason being;
to know how many of those hull are actually left, and to assess their true value..
More later.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 06/13/09 - 12:09 PM
Dont lie
Dont Cheat
And dont give up.. |
| |
|
|
| Blue_Northern |
Posted on 09/04/08 - 2:27 PM
|
Member
Personal Page
Project Albums
Posts: 532
Comments:
5
Joined: 09/04/07
|
Serge - Your project just amazes me. I am doing mine alone and seems to take forever. You are making huge strides in completing your boat. I am back in town and want to talk gel-coat application. I will drop you a PM in the next few days and we can try to get in touch. Very COOL! 
Rob
1973 Outrage/Lo-Pro Conversion |
| |
|
|
| sraab928 |
Posted on 09/04/08 - 4:46 PM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1282
Comments:
13
Joined: 12/27/05
|
Mine is hull number 109 - Mfg in Nov of 1972 - According to Whaler its a 72 but my title reads 73
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/sraab928/1973%20Boston%20Whaler%2019%20Outrage/0904081633.jpg
Edited by Joe Kriz on 12/01/08 - 12:13 PM
Scott
1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8 |
| |
|
|
| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/04/08 - 9:42 PM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1003
Comments:
36
Joined: 06/18/08
|
Hello Rob,
You are very kind in your comments and I thank You for them.
The thing is, I had two months vacation time.
and had a grand time beautifying my whaler.
It will be my pleasure to chat with you soon and help you if I may; with advices about your ongoing project.
What brings us all together here is the basic same classic 70's hulls possessions. I don't mind helping you and Scott for these reasons.
Heck I get more fun chatting with you guys then chatting with some of my relatives, bless their little hearts..
Serge.
Dont lie
Dont Cheat
And dont give up.. |
| |
|
|
| Jeff |
Posted on 09/04/08 - 9:46 PM
|
Member
Posts: 1987
Comments:
34
Joined: 04/02/05
|
You guys are driving be crazy. I want a 19 Outrage project.
Serge,
The boat is coming along very nicely! Can not wait to see it when finished.
1993 23' Walkaround Whaler Drive |
| |
|
|
| sraab928 |
Posted on 09/05/08 - 4:10 AM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1282
Comments:
13
Joined: 12/27/05
|
Jeff there is one quite reasonable priced in Rhode Island - there has been some talk of it here..... I could be convinced to go look at it if you really want another project..... Just remember what you are getting into....which I know you do...lol
Serge - What year is your Outrage? - I thought it was a 74 but now I am not sure.
Scott
1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8 |
| |
|
|
| Blue_Northern |
Posted on 09/05/08 - 6:24 AM
|
Member
Personal Page
Project Albums
Posts: 532
Comments:
5
Joined: 09/04/07
|
Serge - It is nice having some other guys working on the same type of rig.
Scott - I think Serge said his hull was a 1975. Mine is right between yours and his on the production line. Title says a 1973 and Chuck Bennett told me it was originally shipped in Feb of 1973 to Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
I am going to get out there this weekend (If I do NOT end up going fishing) and get some work done on her.
Blue_Northern attached the following image:
[95.19Kb]
Rob
1973 Outrage/Lo-Pro Conversion |
| |
|
|
| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/05/08 - 10:13 PM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1003
Comments:
36
Joined: 06/18/08
|
My 19 Outrage is a 1975.
I had to do plenty of detective work to get the correct Whaler numbers.
What was always in plain sight on the port front fender.was,
000771...the only identification number to see..
I did retrace this history of this boat and even had a few interesting chats with Chuck Bennet at the Whaler plant.
I did find him to be genuine, helpful and well versed.
I have fond memories and a certain measure of respect for the help he gave me to locate a new rub rail.
He did looked for me in the archives and matched my number to a Boston Whaler registration number.
My "tag" is most likely under the large stainless steel transom plate that My Girl came equipped with.
Since then I have heard rumors that things may have gotten quite a bit more complicated for the Whaler staff and workers...
Anyway I was told that my unit was made "At the Old Massachusetts Whaler plant"
Whews! Good thing that I didn't have to spell Mississippi.
Dont lie
Dont Cheat
And dont give up.. |
| |
|
|
| sraab928 |
Posted on 09/06/08 - 5:18 AM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1282
Comments:
13
Joined: 12/27/05
|
Gotta love Chuck....
This was his response to my number -
"According to Whaler's records, serial number 000109 was built in our old Norwell, MA factory as a 19 Whaler and was originally shipped out to a Boyer's Marine, Inc. out of Ocean City, NJ on 11/14/72.
This boat had one of the first 19' models with a 12 digit hull identification number (started in November of 1972). According to the HIN it is a 1972. "
Scott
1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8 |
| |
|
|
| Blue_Northern |
Posted on 09/08/08 - 2:36 PM
|
Member
Personal Page
Project Albums
Posts: 532
Comments:
5
Joined: 09/04/07
|
Well - I got nothing done this weekend. Got home Friday after work and the wife said I should go to the coast with a friend of ours who was feeling down. Now what type of husband would I be if I didn't do as I was told? Fished all weekend and came home Saturday afternoon. Oh well, maybe next weekend.
Rob
1973 Outrage/Lo-Pro Conversion |
| |
|
|
| Binkie |
Posted on 09/08/08 - 7:39 PM
|
Member
Personal Page
Posts: 2012
Comments:
0
Joined: 12/19/05
|
Your friend probably would have felt better if he came to your place, and helped you with your Whaler. Its impossible to feel down when your working on a boat.
rich
|
| |
|
|
| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/08/08 - 10:06 PM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1003
Comments:
36
Joined: 06/18/08
|
That is very true,
I truly think that all the hours spent in sheer pleasure working on the boat will be added to your respective life spans
and I hope that I will not live to regret these words..But seriously;
I did get back to work and am putting in ten hour days.
Days off tomorrow and I will be starting to work on the decking sections.
I will be starting by my usual thorough vacuuming of the flooring sections.
I am planning to start from the forward locker section and start sanding down with 80 grit in a sternwise direction.
Now I have a small question, to you well learned folks.
There is a type of U shaped garniture molding bordering the forward locker bottom edge and the deck so to speak..
Have yo ever renew this edging with a new one?
It is mostly intact but for a damaged smaller part of it.
Dont lie
Dont Cheat
And dont give up.. |
| |
|
|
| Blue_Northern |
Posted on 09/09/08 - 8:20 AM
|
Member
Personal Page
Project Albums
Posts: 532
Comments:
5
Joined: 09/04/07
|
Serge - Are you talking about under the forward locker lid? I am trying to place that on my boat and can't seem to get the part you are talking about. Here is a picture of my forward locker area -- do you see what you are talking about on mine?
Blue_Northern attached the following image:
[96.46Kb]
Rob
1973 Outrage/Lo-Pro Conversion |
| |
|
|
| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/09/08 - 11:49 AM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1003
Comments:
36
Joined: 06/18/08
|
Hey Rob,
The part that I am mentioning is bordering the bottom of the cap that you removed just ahead of your hatch cover.
What specific part are you looking for?
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/236/olympusphotos453yi0.jpg
Edited by Joe Kriz on 12/01/08 - 12:13 PM
Dont lie
Dont Cheat
And dont give up.. |
| |
|
|
| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/10/08 - 12:43 PM
|
Member
Project Albums
Posts: 1003
Comments:
36
Joined: 06/18/08
|
Sept 10th.
I did some prep work on the deck and had my cap/deck issue running in the back of my mind for solutions.
Some of you guys asked for a better view of the u shaped plastic material.
I am happy to oblige.The dark shadow is the taped area that was primed with the Duratec grey primer..
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7996/olympusphotos455yu9.jpg
On this one I may ;
1- leave as is
2- remove and replace with new material
3-remove and anchor the parts together.
I will study the integrity of the parts as I would hate to hear some friction noises from the area when hitting big weathers.
I was pleased to receive some Whaler parts from California.Thank You Andy for trowing in your compass for free.
A great compass and a Teak live bait well hatch cover.
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1671/olympusphotos454ra2.jpg
The cover fits like a glove
I will look forward to re varnishing in time all my teak parts.
More later.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 12/01/08 - 12:14 PM
Dont lie
Dont Cheat
And dont give up.. |
| |
|
