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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 08/04/08 - 11:56 PM
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Actually, Scott,
In the study of those stress cracks, I came to realize that they were caused by a certain amount of play in the gunwale/bow sections.
After an initial refiberglassing of the two plywood junctions on each side of my bow area, I did see that the port side plywood was loose having come adrift of the underside gunwale section.
I understand now that without proper support the flexing of the hull under load will leave tell tale signs such as these stress cracks.
Now What I have done to remedy this situation is;
Dremelled out under great scrutiny the depth of said fractures.It was found that 99% of them went as far as the green. Thus needing to be drilled to such dept.
Talk about feeling like a dentist...But working for myself.
My solution was to make a clean furrow following the stress line and stop at the end of such fissure.
Next over a lapse of time, CLEAN THEM WITH ACETONE and fill a preliminary light coat with polyester resin (to the green)and hand sand smooth.Finish off with the Vinylester 3M Marine filler and sand smooth again.
This may seem like a lot of work but yes it is well worth it.
Next , on to the bow and port section.
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Posted on 08/19/08 - 12:06 PM
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Aug 19th.
It's been a very busy week spent sanding, fairing and getting the cap ready for priming.
The top section done , I paid attention to the two bow section storage and locker areas.
It was also a good time for inspecting and resealing the bow through hull drain system.
I was pleased to see that the heavy duty brass fittings were in excellent shape. Polished and resealed, it just looked like new.
Late last night before turning in,I gave a first coat of Duratec polyester surfacing primer and was very pleased with the results this morning.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4245/olympusphotos412iu0.jpg
I can see that I will be doing some more fairing and sanding before giving it a second coat. The Duratec is a nice product to work with. It will help me in making this refit something to be happy with.
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I will be hand sanding and shaping before giving it a second coat today.
More later.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 12/01/08 - 12:08 PM
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Posted on 08/19/08 - 12:43 PM
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Serge,your progress is impressive and well done ! I love following your thread,it makes me want to seek out another project as the winters are long and I don't forsee much to do on my boat. I suffer from the need to work on Whalers, keeps me out of trouble.......ah I'm searchin now!
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| sraab928 |
Posted on 08/19/08 - 4:22 PM
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Looking great Serge! My 3 weeks away are really giving you a boost over me! Watch out - I will be home next week!
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Posted on 08/19/08 - 4:59 PM
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Yes well had to come in because of the rain.
I think that I will have to break down and get the new big tent garage out of its box and put it up..
Nice to hear from you Jim. How is your old girl doing? If looking for a new project I think that if the hull is in decent shape the rest can be well restored..Love that photo by the Statue of Liberty.
Hope that your vacation is a soothing one Scott.It is true that after having viewed RV with Robin Williams,some of our thoughts were with you.Please don't rush..There is always a lot of sanding to do you know..
Thinking well of you guys.
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Posted on 08/20/08 - 12:53 PM
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Aug 20th.
Clouds and misty showers are seen overhead.
I have sanded and faired some imperfections.
As in a makeover, there is no such thing as too much time spent at the beauty parlor for an older lady...
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The duratec primer has helped a great deal in showing where the imperfections are.
I have filled, faired and sanded with the best quality products available.
Now is the time to use light marine filling compound with a two minute setting time.To top it as a last touch up I have used a polymer glazing putty that takes care of the last fillings.
The temperature permitting, I will be laying a second coat of primer today.
More later,
Edited by Joe Kriz on 12/01/08 - 12:09 PM
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Posted on 08/22/08 - 6:34 PM
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Friday 22nd.
There she'd be me lads,
After three coats of Duratec surfacing primer "perfect for plug finishing and hiding repairs".
Plenty of cosmetic repairs and hand sanding after every coats.
I just scuffed and flew over every inches of the cap with a 100 grit.
No block was used as too many curves and varied shapes.I bended the sheet in half vertically, tore it in half and with each pieces folded it in four and sanded away.
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8393/olympusphotos421bi7.jpg
I had great advices from a fine gentleman named John Gabriel out of Florida.
He has an excellent course video @ www.boatrepairvideos.com
He is very talkable and ALWAYS available to give good advices.by phone or email.
One of the good guys.
If all goes well I should be gel coating Saturday.
More later
Edited by Joe Kriz on 12/01/08 - 12:09 PM
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Posted on 08/23/08 - 4:48 AM
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Your progress continues to amaze me. So you are going to Gelcoat this weekend? Thats great! Are you applying yourself? I assume yes based on what I have seen so far. Best of luck laying the Gel!
Scott
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Posted on 08/23/08 - 5:08 AM
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Serg, would like some info on the Duratec surfacing primer. Is it specifically designed for fiberglass? Does it come in colors other than dark grey?
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 08/23/08 - 9:39 AM
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Hey guys,
Nice to see that you are back home Jim.
One thing to do before gelling the cap will be to wet sand the entire surface with a 220 grit..I think that even though it is calling for rain, I will be getting some of it done.
I am also in the process of laying a granite floor in my ensuite.
Hey after all, I am on vacation and get to do whatever I want to do..
The gell will be applied by me this week weather permitting.
For Rich, You will find all infos about Duratec products . www.duratec1.com
I have talked to Steve or Ruben at www.fibreglast.com 1-800-330-6368 about ordering the products.I did find mine locally for reduced costs.
It also comes in white but the grey was the only color available locally.
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Posted on 08/27/08 - 6:54 PM
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Wed 27th Aug.
The granite floor looks pretty good and I am doing some grouting this evening.
More importantly, my pet project has come along a bit more.
I am extremely pleased with my "High Gloss/ Spectrum combination for the gel coating of the cap.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6903/olympusphotos426vx5.jpg
This is the result of four coats applied carefully and with very controlled painting.
I did enjoy the way it layed very much like thick High quality paint.
I am planning to give it a last coat tomorrow.
I have the option to use Styrene wax additive to the last coat or not..as this product does not require the wax. if the painted structure is above the water line.Well see...
What is there not to like? High gloss after application, minimum orange peeling effect and a forgiving nature..
I hope that the sun will shine again tomorrow.
Edited by Joe Kriz on 08/06/09 - 11:47 AM
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Posted on 08/28/08 - 3:39 AM
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Looking great Serge! Are you putting it on with a sprayer, brush or roller?
Scott
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Posted on 08/28/08 - 6:29 AM
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Serge - That looks great! Are you going to come back and sand the gel-coat? In every case I have seen the labor on the gel-coat process is sanding down the orange peel left after spraying. Yours appears to be really flat to others I have seen. I am also going to shoot my outrage with Spectrum products. I hope to get mine to lay down like yours did. WOW 
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Posted on 08/28/08 - 7:11 AM
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Hey Scott and Rob,
Hope that you are both doing well.
Well this work detail was not an easy one really..
The thing is, the amount of prep work put in this type of refit will be directly proportional to the results at the end.
After all who would like to cover up a surface with fresh gel when you can see underneath a number of uneven surfaces..
So a lot of filling with quality products and sanding afterward. This repeated until it looks right..
To cover these repaired surface one could gamble and apply fresh gel right away.
I felt compelled to cover the cap with a high quality primer and sprayed the grey Duratec..just to be sure.
Now you will get similar results guys using a 60/40 Duratec clear high gloss gel coat additive and gel coat.Spectrum is what I used as it was great quality and already colored from the factory.The drawback is that it is pricey. As much for a quart as you would pay for a gallon of good quality white somewhere else like Fibreglass.com
Yes there will be some sanding, but as you can see; reduced to a minimum.
If you can practice with your HVLP gun on a piece of plywood and get the hang of it, you will be able to do this job.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/466/olympusphotos428yu9.jpg
This is a photo of the starboard bow section, unsanded and just after the last sprayed coat.You will notice the natural gloss of the surface.
I have used about a gallon of additive and three quarts of gel for this job.
For more details I can be reached at my home number guys.
It's all good
Edited by Joe Kriz on 12/01/08 - 12:10 PM
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Posted on 08/28/08 - 8:01 AM
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Did you use the Duratec in the Gel-Coat? I had read about that before and seen a few people use it -- my understanding is that it gives you a higher gloss as well as being a useful thinning agent.
Rob
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Posted on 08/28/08 - 11:28 AM
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Yes, That is right.
Fibreglass has a ten percent sale on right now until tomorrow.
I think that I will be ordering a couple more gallons of the stuff.
I still have the floor to redo and to refresh the hull wouldn't hurt either.
I would recommend it Rob.
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Posted on 08/28/08 - 11:45 AM
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So you were mixing 60% Duratec to 40% Spectrum Gel-coat? I am still learning about Gel-coat -- Does it require a hardening agent? If yes did you get that from Spectrum as well?
Rob
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Posted on 08/28/08 - 12:00 PM
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I have just sent you a private message.
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Posted on 08/28/08 - 1:03 PM
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Got it but have to run. I will be back in the office and try to call you before I head to the coast tomorrow.
Rob
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Posted on 08/28/08 - 4:51 PM
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Serge, Any chance you could post a reply too? Great question, I'm always interested in learning more about gel and its application. Thanks!
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