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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/09/09 - 3:42 PM
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I did some wet hand sanding today.
The console was sanded and feels like a baby's bum.
I will leave up to you to guess as how old is the "baby".
But never mind that now.
I was surprised as to how much of a peel residual different gels will produce.
The job of sanding will be taking me a bit of time but the results are well worth the efforts..of monotonous sanding.
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/14/09 - 8:32 PM
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Sept 14 09.
The days are getting noticeably shorter.
Giving a critical eye to my working areas;
I did decided to start today by vacuuming all Hemlock shedding and all loose materials from my garden's greens.
Sort of give a clean and proper setting for the work that will be taking place.
The areas of the hull having been underneath the supports
were attended to prior to resurfacing.
Careful sanding was done.
Some minor fairing to redress some minor scratches was detailed by careful sanding.
When satisfied by touch and feel and a scrutiny sing visual;
A full twenty ounces of gel was carefully applied to the areas in well timed passes.
The keel sections were also rewarded with some attention.
Seems like there is really no end to the beautifying of a Charming Lady of this caliber.
We will have well understood as to the need to make it right and beautiful when it counts.
A clear insight into the billions spent yearly in the cosmetic and resurfacing industries.
Three hours were invested in this last touch ups.
Sanding will be done to the entire structures.
I prefer to think of it as a fun filled investment in polishing the areas;
To a shiny and attractive state.
I will then reward the surfaces with the Whaler decals, and some surprises in finishing touches.
Edited by ritzyrags on 09/14/09 - 8:39 PM
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| sraab928 |
Posted on 09/15/09 - 3:19 AM
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The pictures look great Serge. Also the blocks being corrected was a good call!
Keep on sanding....and sanding.... and sanding....
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| jorders |
Posted on 09/16/09 - 2:16 PM
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Serge, your project looks great. One thing that i have wondered about since the beginning of your thread is how you can allocate so much time to this project. i wish that i had some time to do things like this.
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/18/09 - 6:48 AM
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It is the Gospelled Truth;
And this, that a lot of my friends will attest,
The Whaler factor is quite conveniently there to keep the mind and the capacity for interest well grounded.
For me working on my Whaler is what I will call Quality Time.
So instead of having gone abroad on my vacations for the past two summers;
I have spent;
From a time period spanning,from mid July to early September working at my favorite project;
And thus have put hundreds of hours doing what.. I like.
Some of my "sources" were bragging about their capacity to hire "cheap" labor available in their states to get the job done on budget.
This is obviously not the case here at Ritzyrags.
But let's be fair here..
I had to finish up my Dear Carol's en suite first, with all fresh amenities.
Pink granite flooring, imported carved precious wood and granite top sink cabinet, new tub, paint ,crown molding etc..
This is the only way that I could have gotten away with it.
Actually,I was actually going to wait for next Summer for starting on my phase three but did find that I had enough time to get #3 done.
I had not budget ted for it but did managed to get the work done.
A buddy named John Gabriel from Florida that is still doing refits and that is keeping in touch from time to time;
(This is how we met);
Has a very good DVD about repairing Gel
www.boatrepairvideos.com
(Forgive me for the blatant plug)
And from his recollection, this kind of re gel coating with the original Polyester resin materials was documented to have payed him up to the 12 Ks pay scale for the kind of refit that I have actually done;
And this with Polyester gels.
Seems like today he is more into spaying Emron into larger yacht's refits.
Gel is just too expensive and time consuming for the budgeted average guy.
So;
instead of suntanning or laying on the beaches;
I have found that to work on My Girl was truly enjoyable and soothing.
Sitting in my park setting in timely fashion has had a true way to recharge my batteries.
It is truly good to do what you want to do at the best of times.
I hope that this has helped into shedding light on things a bit.
Thanks to my Dear Carol and her patience with my "Folly"
Life has been much more bearable due to the Whaler Factor.
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 09/19/09 - 12:03 PM
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Hey Serge, She's looking great! Had a Q about the 7 coats of gel... I'd read that you want to keep the total thickness to about 30 mil to keep it from cracking in the future as it tends to continue to shrink over time. Was this a factor with the product you used?
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/19/09 - 4:24 PM
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Seems like we both like the word Factor here..
Well,
Let's not forget that there is already a very solid thickness of gel left over from the original manufacturing.
You see the polyester gel formula of the day at that time were chemically made to the best standards of their.. times.
And to have seen a vast amount, if not to say;
All of the models past, showing spider cracks;
And this especially within the caps and deck structures;
Has led me to believe that certain Poly formulas were more prone to fissures...then others.
I have yet to see a single spider crack due to shrinkage or heat on the whole span of my hull.
Compare it if you wish to nail polish used by Our Ladies.
Some will go brittle and flake;
But then again, some will last..well, a very long time without damage or loss of integrity.
The magic of better chemistry today.
To give a dry and finished product the power to sustain heat and flex will go a long way in making our boats so much more appealing.
So;
My aim was to use a chemically proven mix of Polyester resins and thinners to achieve this finish product.
And time will tell, of my accuracy of choices.
Let's not forget that sanding will be taking some of the gel's thickness down some.
The thirty mills measure may have been taken in regard to a "certain" quality product and set as a measure some time ago.
A minimum of thirty to a maximum of forty If I do recall properly.
Yes;
Well, To be duly reported as an interesting fact;
What about those stern areas on my project that got to see the "green" with just a couple of pass with my DA then?
The thickness of gell was vastly unequaled throughout the structure; thicker in places and thinner in others.
The causes for spider cracks will be seen as a coating that;
A- Could not flex with the material underneath
B-Could not sustain integrity with the expansion and retractions due to weather
C-As in concrete; kept hardening until brittleness and fissures appeared.
C-Did i not forget to mention the UV rays factor?
With a wee bit of research, you will be able to find the right formula for your needs.
Just read of my entries.
There may be something that would be of use to you.
Edited by ritzyrags on 09/20/09 - 5:26 AM
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Posted on 09/19/09 - 4:58 PM
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Thanks Serge. I've never shot gel but would like to at some point, so I'm always in the information gathering phase and find that first hand experience is always best to learn from.
You're correct, min of 30 and max of 40, which is why I asked about your 7 coats, made me curious. Nothing more.
How did you decide between the surfacing wax and PVA?
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/20/09 - 5:16 AM
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You could use either or..
The formula that I used gave me the option of using neither.
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 09/30/09 - 2:06 PM
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It is just possibly the time that I will have put this thread to bed for now.
A sizable amount of efforts were put forward on this fun project this summer;
And I have also responded in advises and comments to some of you Whaler re fitters out there.
I must give thanks to all the Good Souls.. that had fun in corresponding and in making this subject into a concrete reality.
And having being there to share in the works and pleasure of the Whaler Name and Soul.
In the name of the Classic Banana Hull Owner's Group;
I will thank You.
I am positive that;
There will be more to come later.
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| jorders |
Posted on 10/16/09 - 1:44 PM
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Serge, it sounds to me like you are beginning a sabatacle from your project. i have enjoyed your corrospondance along the way. you obviously have a lot of knowledge about how to go about doing you project. i will keep a watchful eye on your future threads.
i have to ask just one question. the photo that you use for your personal page is somewhat bizzare. what are you wearing?
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| JohnnyCW |
Posted on 10/16/09 - 3:26 PM
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Necromonger's finest...
http://www.legionxxiv.org/riddick.htmiddick.htm
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| flippa |
Posted on 10/16/09 - 7:32 PM
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Looking good Serge. Just checked out your Personal Page, the boat is coming along nicely!
If your dog is anything like mine, that Golden is going to enjoy cruising around on your "new" boat with you in the near future.
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Posted on 10/17/09 - 6:37 AM
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Jorders,
Nice to hear you again.
Yes, I is true that life as it is will be for the most part filled with challenges.
And a refit of that amplitude is a project that will take time, patience and for some strange reason, be a lot of fun.
She is wrapped for the winter but the search for parts continues.
I am still looking for a set of louvered bow locker doors, diverse gunwale rigging ,Teak and Mahogany to make her truly shine;
And all this again in the aim of doing the Classic Whaler Heritage Justice..
What's in a name? You may say.
The answer has been vulgarized by the coin phrase"Brand Loyalty"
Inspiration. will be seen as the right medium here.
Never a dull moment and plenty to think about.. what will be done next...
High point will be seen as when Friends will volunteer to help and sometimes contribute with parts for the benefit of my refit.
That's what Whaler friends are all about.
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 10/17/09 - 6:45 AM
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Thanks for bringing me this link Johnny.
Ideology..
A great example of the diversity of the Human Spirit.
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 10/17/09 - 6:56 AM
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Flippa;
Yes She most definitely is all girl;
All 75LBS of her,big for a female and again one of our resident animal family member here at Ritzyrags.
Plenty to still do on the boat.
Playful wonders, of what will be done with the Teaks and Mahoganies next..
I will still be here to give advise or input throughout the winter months.
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| modenacart |
Posted on 04/14/10 - 4:49 PM
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How many gallons of gel coat did you end up using?
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 04/14/10 - 7:06 PM
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Let's see..
About ten gallons from my last recollection.
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Posted on 04/14/10 - 7:13 PM
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Ok, thanks. I planned on ordering five for my montauk.
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Posted on 07/05/10 - 4:36 PM
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Were you able to get your surfaces flat? Mine look wavy.
They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety.
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